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Postby Spidey-Man » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:09 pm

jza1218 wrote:How is Goetz irrelevant? He only got charged with weapons charges. None of the shooting charges making him not guilty of shooting those punks

He only lost in civil law which is a totally different animal. Nothing to do with criminal justice which is this whole discussion.


He didn't only get charged with weapons charges.

He was acquitted but he was charged.

the facts of Goetz are very different.

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Postby Spidey-Man » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:09 pm

MoneyMelon wrote:That's why I gotta get you first


and you wonder why I didn't meet you for lunch...

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Postby lancer_man » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:09 pm

Aaron_W wrote:The other guy was running for a weapon.


He was going to call in back-up from a whole gang of ninjas. Needed to be stopped.

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Postby jza1218 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:10 pm

Spiderrob wrote:He didn't only get charged with weapons charges.

He was acquitted but he was charged.

the facts of Goetz are very different.


And it's the closest precedent we have. You people can't go around claiming things baselessly and the moment someone uses another example, you backpedal

Getting charged is meaningless. He's the precedent showing that it didnt hold up in a court of law prior to this

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Postby Spidey-Man » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:17 pm

jza1218 wrote:
Getting charged is meaningless.


You're the one who said he wasn't charged (except with weapons). I was correcting you.

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Postby Spidey-Man » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:18 pm

lancer_man wrote:He was going to call in back-up from a whole gang of ninjas. Needed to be stopped.


That makes about as much sense as the idea he had to shoot them-even the guy who was running away.

Still not sure the precedent that says they were one guy.

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Postby Chris » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:21 pm

Thunderstorm wrote:Well he didn't go to jail for this, so obviously it's OK. I don't know why it's even a debate.


You're right. Juries always get things right.
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Postby AaronW » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:23 pm

DaReekstah wrote:You're right. Juries always get things right.


The people have spoken.

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Postby Spidey-Man » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:24 pm

The Punisher should benefit greatly from this :lol:

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Postby MoneyMelon » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:25 pm

Spiderrob wrote:The Punisher should benefit greatly from this :lol:


If only we could do something about that bear punching law.


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Postby jza1218 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:29 pm

Spiderrob wrote:You're the one who said he wasn't charged (except with weapons). I was correcting you.


Fine. I misused the word. He only was indicted of shooting charges :roll:

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Postby jza1218 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:30 pm

DaReekstah wrote:You're right. Juries always get things right.


Prove that they were wrong

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Postby habitual » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:46 pm

jza1218 wrote:Prove that they were wrong


It would be interesting to see what would happen if a civil suit were brought against the shooter.

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Postby jza1218 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:44 pm

habitual wrote:It would be interesting to see what would happen if a civil suit were brought against the shooter.

Hab


Too bad they're dead and were illegal aliens

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Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:10 pm

jza1218 wrote:Too bad they're dead and were illegal aliens


He should have learned Spanish to communicate with them. How embarrassing.
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