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Garofani Spruzzo

Rain Partier

Postby Garofani Spruzzo » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:18 pm

thefourthman wrote:can't help you there, Dark Horse says it still isn't available according to their website, I got mine last week, Midtown had on shipping list for this week... who knows? Diamond fucking around is the answer.


Mine is sitting at DCBS. :(

They don't think that plus a half a dozen comics I've been waiting months for are worth sending me.
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thefourthman

Outhouse Editor

Postby thefourthman » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:19 pm

Spicy Dick wrote::o You sonofamotherfucking bitch! :x

just because I say it works better as a single issue publication doesn't mean that my hardcover collection gene doesn't kick in, override it and demand that shit be on my shelf. And since I have read enough of it to be able to sell it off the shelf, I no longer need to be up to date on it and can read at my leisure when it comes out in the pretty hardcover.
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thefourthman

Outhouse Editor

Postby thefourthman » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:20 pm

Spicy Dick wrote:Mine is sitting at DCBS. :(

They don't think that plus a half a dozen comics I've been waiting months for are worth sending me.

??
seriously?
how do you know?
Is anyone else having the problem?
COMPLAIN


(also stop ordering hipster indie books that are so hip they neglect to actually get published. :lol: )
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Garofani Spruzzo

Rain Partier

Postby Garofani Spruzzo » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:22 pm

thefourthman wrote:just because I say it works better as a single issue publication doesn't mean that my hardcover collection gene doesn't kick in, override it and demand that shit be on my shelf. And since I have read enough of it to be able to sell it off the shelf, I no longer need to be up to date on it and can read at my leisure when it comes out in the pretty hardcover.


I'm not even going to get started here. I already trounced your opinion in the GN thread about it, now it turns out you don't even practice what you preach! :roll:
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Garofani Spruzzo

Rain Partier

Postby Garofani Spruzzo » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:25 pm

thefourthman wrote:??
seriously?
how do you know?
Is anyone else having the problem?
COMPLAIN


(also stop ordering hipster indie books that are so hip they neglect to actually get published. :lol: )


#1, I'll just ignore that last bit since you know how many people have been waiting on the Blacksad HC. Don't even bother, I saw you try and recommend it to Eli Katz. :roll:

#2, yes I complained. I got a reply from them that was why I'm no longer ordering monthly comics online. I thought I could at least get what I paid for without hiring a lawyer though. :evil:

Anything more specific I would have to PM.
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thefourthman

Outhouse Editor

Postby thefourthman » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:28 pm

Spicy Dick wrote:I'm not even going to get started here. I already trounced your opinion in the GN thread about it, now it turns out you don't even practice what you preach! :roll:

no, you made assumptions about what I was saying. It works better as a single issue publication, I tend to read trades in one (or very few sittings) - there are lots of books I read that make that tend, not always. The Absolute Sandmans take me like a year to read. I think anyone who tries to read Watchmen in one sitting is asking for a stroke. All my second and on volumes of strips gather dust while I finish off the first volumes (Dick Tracy, Bloom County, Terry and the Pirates, The Spirit, Calvin and Hobbes). If I read Marvel Omnibii in one sitting, I would not get any sleep or go to work for a day or two.

Thrizzle, The Walking Dead, and a few other titles prove to me that Single issues can be a viable platform for many years to come. However, writers need to realize the format they are writing in and write to the strengths of that format. Decompressed chapters of Graphic Novels like JMS' Thor should just be published in Graphic Novel format and bypass singles altogether.
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thefourthman

Outhouse Editor

Postby thefourthman » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:31 pm

Spicy Dick wrote:#1, I'll just ignore that last bit since you know how many people have been waiting on the Blacksad HC. Don't even bother, I saw you try and recommend it to Eli Katz. :roll:

#2, yes I complained. I got a reply from them that was why I'm no longer ordering monthly comics online. I thought I could at least get what I paid for without hiring a lawyer though. :evil:

Anything more specific I would have to PM.

done, and I wasn't saying Blacksad was hipster, I was talking about the other half dozen books which I assumed would be copies of the ignatz series from Fantagraphics and other such high brow malarky that no one else reads. (except me and McKegan).
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Eli Katz

OMCTO

Postby Eli Katz » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:46 pm

thefourthman wrote:that, I can deal with... it makes sense, but Da Vinci was removed from his time and is being used by a cosmic entity, he isn't the cosmic entity in question.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

I think the comic is brilliant so far. I love this kind of high concept book being done within the marvel universe. It is what I would hope Hickman coming to Marvel would eventually mean.

I think it's cool that Marvel is taking real storytelling risks. I hope it takes more of them. I just don't think this project works.

Maybe, as the story unfolds, the elements that I found problematic will end up making a lot more sense than they do now.

Let me know. I suspect this book will read much better collected.
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Eli Katz

OMCTO

Postby Eli Katz » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:48 pm

I think it's also cool that Marvel is putting out a book that's worth arguing about and that provokes real discussion.
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Starlord

Outhouse Editor

Postby Starlord » Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:06 pm

I won't be reviewing next week since I won't be getting my books until the following Monday. Or... it will be a really late review I guess.
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Garofani Spruzzo

Rain Partier

Postby Garofani Spruzzo » Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:16 pm

Eli Katz wrote:I think it's also cool that Marvel is putting out a book that's worth arguing about and that provokes real discussion.


This is the book that will be talked about for the next ten years, don't forget.

We will have a lot of time to go over this.
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Eric Ratcliffe

Staff Writer

Postby Eric Ratcliffe » Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:24 pm

Sheild #2

So this was a dialogue and exposition heavy issue. That''s not necessarily a bad thing but I'm still not quite sure what the hell is going on. We get a little more of our leads past and see a huge fight between Riichards/Stark and Leonid's father.

Like I said earlier, I have no idea where the hell this is going but its damn pretty to look at. All in all it's a strong issue but I'm not sure the series is really gaining ground at this point.

Verdict: 8
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:55 pm

After a universally loved first issue the second issue is given a lot of mixed reviews. This is very emperor has no clothes kind of book.
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48THRiLLS

Review Grouper

Postby 48THRiLLS » Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:26 pm

SHIELD #2
I enjoyed the first issue of this series despite having to review the black and white variant so it was pretty nice to have the color version this time and the art looked just amazing. I also really enjoyed the book itself, it started off with some great ideas, I love Da Vinci as a super hero and founding member of SHIELD. Issue 2 hit a bit of a snag I thought but not enough to deter me from picking up the next issue, I didn't mind the text only page which (I am sure this has been said before already) reminded me of Hickman's indie stuff. I also like seeing the senior Stark and Richards as part of early SHIELD, I think Jonathon Hickman has some grand ideas coming and with Dustin Weaver on the art I don't see how this can't become a classic series... but this issue here was filled with a lot of huhwha? that will probably make sense as we read on but I am scoring this one lower than issue 1.

STORY - 7

ART - 9

OVERALL - 8
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BlueStreak

The Red Stands for Irony

Postby BlueStreak » Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:38 pm

guitarsmashley wrote:After a universally loved first issue the second issue is given a lot of mixed reviews. This is very emperor has no clothes kind of book.


I think some of the shock and awe of the first issue was that it was so unlike anything else in the market.

Now we're beginning to see why.

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