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Postby Punchy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:02 pm

New Avengers #1 - 'Possession' - Bendis, Immonen, Von Grawbadger and Martin

Story - Even as a big fan of Bendis' Avengers, I must admit I was kind of confused about the point behind this series. I mean, Bendis was already writing one heroic Avengers book, and the line-up of this book was pretty much exactly the same as Avengers. Why do we need New as well? When Bendis wrote Mighty and New together, it made sense to have 2 books, the same for New and Dark. But this... it seemed kind of arbitrary, an excuse to have Bendis write all his favourites.

And it appears that that's just what New Avengers volume 2 is. But on the basis of this issue, I don't really mind. This was an immensely enjoyable first issue, with many great character moments and humour. Maybe this book doesn't have a point, but what actually does in this life? As long as you enjoy it, it doesn't matter if it's pointless.

The main reason for this team seems to be that Luke Cage is unwilling to do take orders, and therefore Steve Rogers and Tony Stark let him pick his own team and move into Avengers Mansion. This may sound silly and petty of Cage, but it makes sense, his anti-authoritarian streak has been a huge driving force in New Avengers since #22, and if it just went away now, it wouldn't make sense. We also get some levity from Tony Stark's give me a dollar bit, and even Steve Rogers gets a joke in (you can't have Iron Man or Thor).

So Luke picks his bestest buddies, and they go to the Mansion, but hold on a minute! Victoria Bloody Hand is there! She worked for Osborn! Kill her! But of course, anyone who read Dark Avengers knows that Hand isn't all bad, and as such, she becomes the SHIELD liaison between the NA and Steve Rogers. I really like Hand as a character, and I'm glad to see she hasn't disappeared with the fall of Norman.

The main addition to the team in this issue (everyone else is basically the same as in the last issue of the previous volume, although Iron Fist is back and Spider-Woman is gone) is the Thing. That's right, the ever lovin' etc Thing. It's always weird seeing members of the FF outside of that group, but I think of anyone, Ben Grimm works the best, he couldn't have helmed a team-up book for so long if he didn't. I look forward to seeing what Ben contributes to the team.

The magical nature of the villain has proved troublesome for some, but I don't really mind, Bendis has handled magic very well throughout his run, and I'm of the opinion that if you try and explain it, it's not magic anymore. The nature of magic is that random shit happens, get over it, and accept that strange demons are possessing Hellstrom and Strange. Lie back and think of England.

Overall, this was a really fun start to this new volume, the main Avengers book may be all about the Earth-shattering threats, but this book seems to be about a group of heroes hanging out and having fun as well as the Earth-shattering, and it's the kind of book I can get behind. Maybe it didn't need a new #1, maybe it doesn't need to exist at all, but hey, comics don't need to exist, and we still love 'em. If you're a fan what Bendis did in 64 previous issues of New Avengers, this is the same book, but with a fresh lick of paint, get in there!

Art - I think Stuart Immonen may be one of my favourite comics artists of all time, he's just bloody amazing, he draws everything perfectly, he's flawless. When I close my eyes and think of Marvel Comics, I see his art. Just the best.

Best Line - 'Multitasking. It's my mutant power. Don't tell anybody'

8/10

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Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:05 pm

Punchy wrote:New Avengers #1 - 'Possession' - Bendis, Immonen, Von Grawbadger and Martin

Story - Even as a big fan of Bendis' Avengers, I must admit I was kind of confused about the point behind this series. I mean, Bendis was already writing one heroic Avengers book, and the line-up of this book was pretty much exactly the same as Avengers. Why do we need New as well? When Bendis wrote Mighty and New together, it made sense to have 2 books, the same for New and Dark. But this... it seemed kind of arbitrary, an excuse to have Bendis write all his favourites.

And it appears that that's just what New Avengers volume 2 is. But on the basis of this issue, I don't really mind. This was an immensely enjoyable first issue, with many great character moments and humour. Maybe this book doesn't have a point, but what actually does in this life? As long as you enjoy it, it doesn't matter if it's pointless.

The main reason for this team seems to be that Luke Cage is unwilling to do take orders, and therefore Steve Rogers and Tony Stark let him pick his own team and move into Avengers Mansion. This may sound silly and petty of Cage, but it makes sense, his anti-authoritarian streak has been a huge driving force in New Avengers since #22, and if it just went away now, it wouldn't make sense. We also get some levity from Tony Stark's give me a dollar bit, and even Steve Rogers gets a joke in (you can't have Iron Man or Thor).

So Luke picks his bestest buddies, and they go to the Mansion, but hold on a minute! Victoria Bloody Hand is there! She worked for Osborn! Kill her! But of course, anyone who read Dark Avengers knows that Hand isn't all bad, and as such, she becomes the SHIELD liaison between the NA and Steve Rogers. I really like Hand as a character, and I'm glad to see she hasn't disappeared with the fall of Norman.

The main addition to the team in this issue (everyone else is basically the same as in the last issue of the previous volume, although Iron Fist is back and Spider-Woman is gone) is the Thing. That's right, the ever lovin' etc Thing. It's always weird seeing members of the FF outside of that group, but I think of anyone, Ben Grimm works the best, he couldn't have helmed a team-up book for so long if he didn't. I look forward to seeing what Ben contributes to the team.

The magical nature of the villain has proved troublesome for some, but I don't really mind, Bendis has handled magic very well throughout his run, and I'm of the opinion that if you try and explain it, it's not magic anymore. The nature of magic is that random shit happens, get over it, and accept that strange demons are possessing Hellstrom and Strange. Lie back and think of England.

Overall, this was a really fun start to this new volume, the main Avengers book may be all about the Earth-shattering threats, but this book seems to be about a group of heroes hanging out and having fun as well as the Earth-shattering, and it's the kind of book I can get behind. Maybe it didn't need a new #1, maybe it doesn't need to exist at all, but hey, comics don't need to exist, and we still love 'em. If you're a fan what Bendis did in 64 previous issues of New Avengers, this is the same book, but with a fresh lick of paint, get in there!

Art - I think Stuart Immonen may be one of my favourite comics artists of all time, he's just bloody amazing, he draws everything perfectly, he's flawless. When I close my eyes and think of Marvel Comics, I see his art. Just the best.

Best Line - 'Multitasking. It's my mutant power. Don't tell anybody'

8/10


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Postby doombug » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:18 pm

great review punch!
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Postby superfictious » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:26 pm

Punchy wrote:Overall, this was a really fun start to this new volume, the main Avengers book may be all about the Earth-shattering threats, but this book seems to be about a group of heroes hanging out and having fun as well as the Earth-shattering, and it's the kind of book I can get behind. Maybe it didn't need a new #1, maybe it doesn't need to exist at all, but hey, comics don't need to exist, and we still love 'em.



That's the main reason I'm positive about this book. The other two (or three or four) Avengers book make more sense logistically and stylistically, but this one seem like it'll be the most wacky fun. As far as the mischaracterizations (ie Luke's sonic clap) I'm not enough of a fan of the Marvel U to know the difference.

Writing: 6.5/10
Art: 8/10

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Postby Punchy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:22 pm

Klown wrote:That's the main reason I'm positive about this book. The other two (or three or four) Avengers book make more sense logistically and stylistically, but this one seem like it'll be the most wacky fun. As far as the mischaracterizations (ie Luke's sonic clap) I'm not enough of a fan of the Marvel U to know the difference.

Writing: 6.5/10
Art: 8/10


If anyone knows Luke Cage's characterisation it's Bendis.

People are even accusing him of mis-writing characters he himself created! (Maria Hill) That's how badly people hate him.

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Postby Victorian Squid » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:25 pm

Yeah. Bendis' favorite characters aren't my favorite characters...although Ms Marvel old school used to be because probably I had a thing for blonds in short skirts as a kid. Nothing wrong with them today either. But kidding aside, I hate what has been done with her for the last 5 years at least.

Can't really accept Bendis' Luke Cage either, because he's either grumpy or needs to work some shit out with the chick who holds the baby. That's his two modes.

Wolverine and Spider-man. Please.

Iron Fist. I dunno, sometimes I think instead of another Avengers relaunch maybe Bendis should've written a Luke Cage/Iron Fist series instead especially since Danny is loose. You still have the chick who holds the baby.

Hawkeye's a character I think Bendis writes well when he's not killing him. His sort of wordy banter works well.

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Postby doombug » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:25 pm

Punchy wrote:If anyone knows Luke Cage's characterisation it's Bendis.

People are even accusing him of mis-writing characters he himself created! (Maria Hill) That's how badly people hate him.


:lol: He's writing her exactly like she evolved under Fraction!

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Postby Punchy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:34 pm

Tapir Man wrote:Yeah. Bendis' favorite characters aren't my favorite characters...although Ms Marvel old school used to be because probably I had a thing for blonds in short skirts as a kid. Nothing wrong with them today either. But kidding aside, I hate what has been done with her for the last 5 years at least.

Can't really accept Bendis' Luke Cage either, because he's either grumpy or needs to work some shit out with the chick who holds the baby. That's his two modes.

Wolverine and Spider-man. Please.

Iron Fist. I dunno, sometimes I think instead of another Avengers relaunch maybe Bendis should've written a Luke Cage/Iron Fist series instead especially since Danny is loose. You still have the chick who holds the baby.

Hawkeye's a character I think Bendis writes well when he's not killing him. His sort of wordy banter works well.


Her name is Jessica Jones!

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Postby doombug » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:38 pm

Punchy wrote:Her name is Jessica Jones!


Punchy it's J, just let it slide.

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Postby Punchy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:39 pm

doombug wrote:Punchy it's J, just let it slide.


Yeah, I bet he knows the character's name, but is just pretending not to!

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Postby Victorian Squid » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:49 pm

Punchy wrote:Yeah, I bet he knows the character's name, but is just pretending not to!


I know the baby's name is Jessica Jones. :roll:


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Postby Punchy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:52 pm

Tapir Man wrote:I know the baby's name is Jessica Jones. :roll:


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Postby Dragavon » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:08 pm

New Avengers #1 by Bendis, Immonen, Von Grawbadger & Martin

I am a Bendis fan. I have almost every single Bendis comic published at Marvel (with the exception of Alias). I bought and loved Avengers Disassembled, Daredevil, Dark Avengers, Elektra, House of M, Mighty Avengers, New Avengers, Secret Invasion, Secret War, Secret Warriors, Siege & Spider-Woman. So when I tell you I don't see the point of this title, you will understand.

While Avengers had the benefit of minimizing the Bendis-speak that annoys everybody else, this seemed to go in the complete opposite direction. I read more short lines and corrected sentences in any comic that Bendis has ever written. And for the first time ever, it started to annoy me. That coupled with 5 pages of action out of a 22 page comic made me consider why I would want to continue with this comic. Then there's the matter of the characters. Luke Cage who basically spends the entire comic whining about one thing or another. Victoria Hand who should have been arrested and disposed off. Hawkeye in a third Avengers title this month. Mockingbird. :roll: And was Ben Grimm brought in because Bendis wanted a jewish character to be his Mary-Sue? What is this line-up, The Defenders? And after reducing Dr. Strange to has-been and trying to elevate Brother Voodoo, he's now doing a similar hatchet job on Voodoo?

This is Bendis taking every criticism targeted at him and trying to live down to those comments.

Thankfully, Immonen takes every shortcoming in the story and makes up for it with absolutely gorgeous art with the help of Von Grawbadger & Martin. I read this like I read a Loeb comic, ignoring the speech balloons and look at the beautiful art and it read much more elegantly.

If you want to read this comic, get some white-out and apply it to all the words. Trust me, it will improve your reading experience.

Writing 2
Art 10
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Postby Victorian Squid » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:10 pm

After that last review, I was thinking maybe they should've been a new Champions or something. That'd be kind of cool.

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Postby Dragavon » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:13 pm

Tapir Man wrote:After that last review, I was thinking maybe they should've been a new Champions or something. That'd be kind of cool.

Marvel no longer has the rights to The Champions, some RPG company won the rights.
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