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Sharron Angle: Muslim law taking hold in parts of US

Postby Frag » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:17 pm

I hate Harry Reid and was hoping he would lose, but seriously, how can I support a nutjob like this?

LAS VEGAS – U.S. Senate candidate Sharron Angle told a crowd of supporters that the country needs to address a "militant terrorist situation" that has allowed Islamic religious law to take hold in some American cities.
Her comments came at a rally of tea party supporters in the Nevada resort town of Mesquite last week after the candidate was asked about Muslims angling to take over the country, and marked the latest of several controversial remarks by the Nevada Republican.
In a recording of the rally provided to The Associated Press by the Mesquite Local News, a man is heard asking Angle : "I keep hearing about Muslims wanting to take over the United States ... on a TV program just last night, I saw that they are taking over a city in Michigan and the residents of the city, they want them out. They want them out. So, I want to hear your thoughts about that."
Angle responds that "we're talking about a militant terrorist situation, which I believe it isn't a widespread thing, but it is enough that we need to address, and we have been addressing it."
"My thoughts are these, first of all, Dearborn, Michigan, and Frankford, Texas are on American soil, and under constitutional law. Not Sharia law. And I don't know how that happened in the United States," she said. "It seems to me there is something fundamentally wrong with allowing a foreign system of law to even take hold in any municipality or government situation in our United States."
Dearborn, Mich., has a thriving Muslim community. It was not immediately clear why Angle singled out Frankford, Texas, a former town that was annexed into Dallas around 1975.
Responding to the same question, she also drew comparisons between the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and the Nazi Holocaust. She said the property owners behind the proposed Islamic community center near ground zero should move it in deference to the people who died there.
"There was, in Auschwitz, I think it was Auschwitz, it was at least a prisoner of war camp, where the Catholic Church owned some property and they were going to build a church there. They had every right to do it but they stepped aside and said, no, we are going to allow the Jewish people to make a monument because they lost lives," she said. "They had a responsibility to be sensitive to what had happened there and it is exactly the same thing as 9/11. Ground zero, we have a responsibility to be sensitive to the loss of a nation, to the loss of families, to the loss of life that happened there."
Angle seemed to be referring to a Roman Catholic convent at the Auschwitz death camp that Pope John Paul II ordered moved in 1993 in response to Jewish protests.
Others, including the Anti-Defamation League, the nation's leading Jewish civil rights group, have evoked the relocated convent while voicing opposition to the mosque. But the ADL also has stressed that 9/11 and the Holocaust are separate, incomparable events.
Angle's campaign did not answer questions about her statements.
"I'm pretty sure that she did make it clear that there had been incidents in the news, but there is nothing widespread, and that we have freedom of religion in this country," said spokesman Jarrod Agen in an e-mail.
Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington-based advocacy group, called Angle's statements "bizarre."
"This seems to be an example of incoherent bigotry. It is pretty clear that she has something against Islam and Muslims but she is so incoherent you don't know what she stands for," Hooper said. "The proper response would have been, 'American Muslims are citizens like anyone else. They are free to practice their faith,' not seeming to agree that Muslims are somehow seeking to take over."
Dearborn Mayor Jack O'Reilly called Angle's comments "shameful." He said tea party groups inaccurately spread the word that his Detroit suburb was ruled by Islamic law after members of an anti-Islam group were arrested at an Arab cultural festival in June because a Christian volunteer complained of harassment.
"She took it as face value and maligned the city of Dearborn and I consider that totally irresponsible," he said. "If she wants to come here, I will take her on a tour. I will show her we follow the Constitution just as well as anyone else."
Angle, a Southern Baptist, has called herself a faith-based politician. Among her positions, she opposes abortion in all circumstances, including rape and incest and doesn't believe the Constitution requires the separation of church and state.
Angle is in a dead-heat race against Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who has also said the community center, which would include a mosque, should be built elsewhere. A recent poll showed Reid and Angle tied in the high-profile campaign.
Reid's campaign said Angle's comments advances its ongoing campaign to portray her as outside mainstream America.
"The fact that Sharron Angle believes American cities have been taken over by militant terrorist organizations that are ruling our citizens under Sharia law shows a terrifying lack of connection with reality and a willingness to subscribe to conspiracy theories that demonstrates she's far too extreme and dangerous to represent Nevada in the U.S. Senate," spokesman Kelly Steele said.
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Sharron Angle: Muslim law taking hold in parts of US

Postby Thunderstorm » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:24 pm

Is this the situation in Dearborn? I can see it happening pretty easy.

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Re: Sharron Angle: Muslim law taking hold in parts of US

Postby Frag » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:28 pm

Thunderstorm wrote:Is this the situation in Dearborn? I can see it happening pretty easy.


No. It was because of that stupid video.

Dearborn Mayor Jack O'Reilly called Angle's comments "shameful." He said tea party groups inaccurately spread the word that his Detroit suburb was ruled by Islamic law after members of an anti-Islam group were arrested at an Arab cultural festival in June because a Christian volunteer complained of harassment.
"She took it as face value and maligned the city of Dearborn and I consider that totally irresponsible," he said. "If she wants to come here, I will take her on a tour. I will show her we follow the Constitution just as well as anyone else."
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Re: Sharron Angle: Muslim law taking hold in parts of US

Postby Thunderstorm » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:32 pm

Ah, still I think it's somewhat worthy of concern. We have religious freedom in this country, and their law is part of their religion. I can see a point where an area could become overwhelmingly Muslim and the argument was made that we allow for some level of that being implemented.

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Postby MrBlack » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:39 pm

Thunderstorm wrote:Ah, still I think it's somewhat worthy of concern. We have religious freedom in this country, and their law is part of their religion.

That's the same screed people made about Catholics back in the day. People said Kennedy wouldn't be a good president because he would take his orders from the Pope.

You do realize that not all Muslims are Osama Bin Laden, right?

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Postby Thunderstorm » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:47 pm

MrBlack wrote:That's the same screed people made about Catholics back in the day. People said Kennedy wouldn't be a good president because he would take his orders from the Pope.

You do realize that not all Muslims are Osama Bin Laden, right?


I realize that you guys like to stick extreme points of view on people you disagree with, like you're doing here. My concern is more with political correctness than Islam, but it applies to Islam in this case.

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Re: Sharron Angle: Muslim law taking hold in parts of US

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:31 pm

MrBlack wrote:That's the same screed people made about Catholics back in the day. People said Kennedy wouldn't be a good president because he would take his orders from the Pope.

You do realize that not all Muslims are Osama Bin Laden, right?


However, sharia law is at the very least oppressive towards women, and islam itself is a very political religion. There is no seperation of church and state in arab countries.

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Re: Sharron Angle: Muslim law taking hold in parts of US

Postby Kolimar » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:35 pm

:shock: Politicians should be tested to see their level of intelligence, understanding of the world and connection with reality. The problem would be how many would that leave? :twisted: :P
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Postby MoneyMelon » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:37 pm

Wasn't there a case where some guy beat his wife and got arrested, but the judge said since it was sharia law, the guy wasn't going to go to jail? Pretty sure it was appealed and the guy did end up going to jail.

I seem to remember hearing something about that, though.
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Re: Sharron Angle: Muslim law taking hold in parts of US

Postby Kolimar » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:39 pm

Kolimar wrote: The problem would be how many would that leave? :twisted: :P


I mean, if that can be called a problem. :P
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Postby MoneyMelon » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:48 pm

MoneyMelon wrote:Wasn't there a case where some guy beat his wife and got arrested, but the judge said since it was sharia law, the guy wasn't going to go to jail? Pretty sure it was appealed and the guy did end up going to jail.

I seem to remember hearing something about that, though.

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Re: Sharron Angle: Muslim law taking hold in parts of US

Postby Thunderstorm » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:54 pm



Totally shocked that could happen.

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Re: Sharron Angle: Muslim law taking hold in parts of US

Postby Frag » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:57 pm

Thunderstorm wrote:
Totally shocked that could happen.

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Totally shocked that it was immediately fixed.
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Charles' ruling was overturned last month by New Jersey's Appellate Court, which ruled that the husband's religious beliefs were irrelevant and that the judge, in taking them into consideration, "was mistaken."
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Postby Regulator » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:59 pm

Reading that story, the only thing the judge said was that there weren't grounds for a restraining order. She filed for it after they divorced so, reading between the lines of the story, the forced sex happened when they were married. It wasn't a criminal prosecution of the man and if he was raping her after the divorce I would think it would be mentioned as it only strengthens their side of the story.

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Re: Sharron Angle: Muslim law taking hold in parts of US

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:59 pm

It was overturned as it should be, but that doesn't change the fact that Muslims WANT to live under Sharia law, and Sharia law treats women like property. In any case, it certainly goes against the values we claim to uphold with our laws.
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