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Re: Review Group Week 243 - ULTIMATE COMICS THOR #1

Postby Amoebas » Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:06 pm

GOFM wrote:Ultimate Thor #1
Meh. Nazis versus Thor has potential, the rest of this was just kind of all over the place for me.
Story 2
Art 3
Overall 6

How do you score? Because a 2 & a 3 (imo) equals an overall of 2.5. How does this equal 6?

I'm not slamming your score just trying to figure out the process behind it.

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Re: Review Group Week 243 - ULTIMATE COMICS THOR #1

Postby Victorian Squid » Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:12 pm

Amoebas wrote:How do you score? Because a 2 & a 3 (imo) equals an overall of 2.5. How does this equal 6?

I'm not slamming your score just trying to figure out the process behind it.


He adds the 2+3 to get 6.

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Re: Review Group Week 243 - ULTIMATE COMICS THOR #1

Postby guitarsmashley » Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:25 pm

Amoebas wrote:How do you score? Because a 2 & a 3 (imo) equals an overall of 2.5. How does this equal 6?

I'm not slamming your score just trying to figure out the process behind it.


How dare you try and correct his mathematical short comings. He's from the south of course he can't count.
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Re: Review Group Week 243 - ULTIMATE COMICS THOR #1

Postby 48THRiLLS » Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:56 pm

ULTIMATE THOR #1
I like Hickman. I like Pacheco, I like Thor. I should like this... but I did not. This was a jumbled mess, the 3 time lines were all over the place. The "now" time line I was lost on... I didn't read anything that led up to this so I don't know why Thor is in a hospital and who the people examining him were (except Blake). The "Germany 1939" time line I just didn't care about. Nazi's seem played out to me, aren't they already Cap's main thing? The "eons ago" time line seemed like standard Thor origin stuff (which I am fine with). I am sure all 3 of these time lines will tie in together and make sense eventually but I don't care enough about them to find out. I was really quite interested to see what the Ultimate version of Thor's origin would be like and see what Hickman does differently than his 616 origin but I guess I won't find out... good thing I don't care about the Ultimate U anyway.
...Oh yeah, the book was pretty and that was one of the few redeeming qualities.

STORY - 3

ART - 9

OVERALL - 5

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Re: Review Group Week 243 - ULTIMATE COMICS THOR #1

Postby thefourthman » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:19 pm

Amoebas wrote:How do you score? Because a 2 & a 3 (imo) equals an overall of 2.5. How does this equal 6?

I'm not slamming your score just trying to figure out the process behind it.

I screwed up, it should have been a five. but yeah, I decided a long time ago that since the damn things are really arbitrary to begin with, coming up with two five star scores and adding them to create the ten star score saved me time effort and worry.

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Postby ****** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:00 pm

ITT: 4thy sez maths is hurd.

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Re: Review Group Week 243 - ULTIMATE COMICS THOR #1

Postby malcolm reynolds » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:22 pm

Ultimate comics Thor #1 (of 4)

Two complaints that I've heard a lot about this issue before I even read it was the dilution of the Ultimate universe and the fact that with this issue we see yet another Thor book on the stands in time for the Movie soon to come out. To be honest these two things stopped me from pre-ordering this title when I had the chance.

Ultimate Thor has been a varying character from his initial appearance in the first Ultimate’s series. Until recently the general consensus was that Thor was delusional and wasn’t the Thor that he thought he was. In this issue we see the history of Thor and Asgard in the Ultimate universe. A history where the warriors three are the three sons of Odin, and a history that draws from its 616 counterpart where Loki, Baldar and Thor are sons of Odin.

One thing I’ve recently realized with my tastes in comics is that when there are Nazi’s involved there is usually good comics to be had. Their over the top tactics and their willingness to stop at nothing creates a perfect platform for which to tell any story. In this first issue we find out that the Nazi’s are going to take on Asgard, but they’re not going to do it alone, they’ve brought in the Asgardians own enemies as back-up; the Frost Giants. Unlike many of his other works Hickman is limited to just four issues to tell his story, which seems to have reigned in his usual big ideas and allowed for a more solid and focused story.

The art was a little bit of a letdown, in recent months I’ve taken more notice with the art work in the books I read, and this was far from Pacheo’s best work, that being said any of his work is steps above a lot of other artists out there. The fight scenes however felt well put together and my only real complaint with the art by the end was the facial expressions. They seemed off and rushed.

Marvel has been pumping out a multitude of Thor books as well as mini series’, which is continually making it harder and harder to pick and chose not only which books are going to be good, but which one’s you ultimately want to pick up. With that in mind I’ll word it this way; Ultimate comics Thor #1 was the second best Thor book I read this month. Hickman gets his name thrown around a lot for both good and bad reasons, but he is showing time and time again that anything that he writes is worth checking out.

Story 7
Art 6


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Re: Review Group Week 243 - ULTIMATE COMICS THOR #1

Postby Punchy » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:21 am

Is the Ultimate line really diluted? Currently there are only 2 ongoings (Spider-Man and X, which is very delayed) and 4 minis (Mystery, Avengers 3, New Ultimates and now Thor), they only seem to launch a new mini when an old one finishes too (like the upcoming Captain America)

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Re: Review Group Week 243 - ULTIMATE COMICS THOR #1

Postby guitarsmashley » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:54 am

Punchy wrote:Is the Ultimate line really diluted? Currently there are only 2 ongoings (Spider-Man and X, which is very delayed) and 4 minis (Mystery, Avengers 3, New Ultimates and now Thor), they only seem to launch a new mini when an old one finishes too (like the upcoming Captain America)


The line itself maybe streamlined but through all the crap they've put the universe through and the awful story lines it's definitely become diluted.
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Re: Review Group Week 243 - ULTIMATE COMICS THOR #1

Postby guitarsmashley » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:22 am

This was an ok issue. I miss the good Carlos Pacheco. This is missing his finesse and just shows off his monkey do, monkey work style. It's ok but it just looks like cheap brian hitch. The writing was pretty standard, nothing extraordinary nothing awful. I didn't find the book a jumbled disjointed mess that certain other posters did. Either way the book was pretty average.

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Postby ****** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:36 am

guitarsmashley wrote:It's ok but it just looks like cheap brian hitch.


I wish I had come up with that line.

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Re: Review Group Week 243 - ULTIMATE COMICS THOR #1

Postby Punchy » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:53 am

guitarsmashley wrote:
The line itself maybe streamlined but through all the crap they've put the universe through and the awful story lines it's definitely become diluted.


I think it's recovered from Ultimatum pretty well, even Loeb's stuff is good. What diluted it was letting lesser talents like those Heroes guys write Ultimate X-Men and Ultimate Fantastic Four.

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Re: Review Group Week 243 - ULTIMATE COMICS THOR #1

Postby BlueStreak » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:54 am

guitarsmashley wrote:
The line itself maybe streamlined but through all the crap they've put the universe through and the awful story lines it's definitely become diluted.


This, especially with the multiple Iron Men, Captain Americas, Wasps, Black Widows, Thors, Hulks and everything else that's running around in the Ultimate Universe. Nothing feels of consequence anymore.
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Re: Review Group Week 243 - ULTIMATE COMICS THOR #1

Postby Punchy » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:56 am

BlueStreak wrote:
This, especially with the multiple Iron Men, Captain Americas, Wasps, Black Widows, Thors, Hulks and everything else that's running around in the Ultimate Universe. Nothing feels of consequence anymore.


Often the reason for the multiples is that the originals are dead, how is that not consequences?

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Re: Review Group Week 243 - ULTIMATE COMICS THOR #1

Postby Victorian Squid » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:56 am

The main books in the UU do still seem to sell well, I just don't understand why when I read them.
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