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Punchy

Staff Writer

Postby Punchy » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:59 am

Victorian Squid wrote:The main books in the UU do still seem to sell well, I just don't understand why when I read them.


Because they have Bendis, Millar, Loeb, Art Adams, Frank Cho and others?
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Chubbles

Twenty-Something

Postby Chubbles » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:00 pm

I'll be posting a couple of reviews this evening :oops:
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BlueStreak

The Red Stands for Irony

Postby BlueStreak » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:03 pm

Punchy wrote:
Often the reason for the multiples is that the originals are dead, how is that not consequences?


But who cares about the stories if they just replace characters with carbon copies after every fatality?

The Ultimate line was my first foray into modern Marvel comics all those years ago. It was great because the stories were accessible and the line in general felt tighter. It doesn't feel that way anymore with any of the titles save the Bendis ones. Since Ultimates 3, the line has moved away from tight, modern versions of Marvel characters to Hardcore versions of the characters. Since the books are still selling, I guess some people like it, but I really don't.
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Chubbles

Twenty-Something

Postby Chubbles » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:08 pm

i prefer the original premise of the Ultimates line but i still enjoy the current stuff...they are different but i like both
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Chubbles

Twenty-Something

Postby Chubbles » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:11 pm

Kind of reminds me of when Image first launched when they just had cool art and big action...i just hope the Ultimate line doesn't fizzle out like those Image books did
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Punchy

Staff Writer

Postby Punchy » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:31 pm

BlueStreak wrote:
But who cares about the stories if they just replace characters with carbon copies after every fatality?

The Ultimate line was my first foray into modern Marvel comics all those years ago. It was great because the stories were accessible and the line in general felt tighter. It doesn't feel that way anymore with any of the titles save the Bendis ones. Since Ultimates 3, the line has moved away from tight, modern versions of Marvel characters to Hardcore versions of the characters. Since the books are still selling, I guess some people like it, but I really don't.


The replacements are hardly carbon copies, apart from Daredevil.
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:10 pm

Punchy wrote:
Often the reason for the multiples is that the originals are dead, how is that not consequences?


I think there is a fine line between any thing could happen and we did it because anything could happen.

Ex.
The Walking Dead
[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand
Killing of Laurie
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Vs
Ultimatum
[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand
We killed everybody



It's about subtlety.
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BlueStreak

The Red Stands for Irony

Postby BlueStreak » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:16 pm

Punchy wrote:
The replacements are hardly carbon copies, apart from Daredevil.


The smattering of Ultimate Avengers and Ultimate Ultimates (or whatever is the other Ultimates book is called) that I've read suggests otherwise. The only difference I see is that they're more hardcore and brutal. Which seems to sell copies, so whatever. I understand that I'm in the minority in my thinking here.
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:39 pm

BlueStreak wrote:
The smattering of Ultimate Avengers and Ultimate Ultimates (or whatever is the other Ultimates book is called) that I've read suggests otherwise. The only difference I see is that they're more hardcore and brutal. Which seems to sell copies, so whatever. I understand that I'm in the minority in my thinking here.


The phrase you're looking for is To THE EXTREME!!!

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Postby ****** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:18 pm

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Punchy

Staff Writer

Postby Punchy » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:58 pm

BlueStreak wrote:
The smattering of Ultimate Avengers and Ultimate Ultimates (or whatever is the other Ultimates book is called) that I've read suggests otherwise. The only difference I see is that they're more hardcore and brutal. Which seems to sell copies, so whatever. I understand that I'm in the minority in my thinking here.


The 'Black Hulk' could be an example of that, but other than that, the new Wasp or Black Widow aren't that XXX-TREME.
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:10 pm

5.98 is probably the right score for this issue.

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Postby ****** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:18 pm

Punchy wrote:5.98 is probably the right score for this issue.


No. Everyone who scored it lower than me was wrong.
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:34 pm

John Snow wrote:
I wish I had come up with that line.


Thank you and I'm not a pacheco hater...in fact he's one of my favorites but the last I saw of his "good" work was superman batman.
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Tintin Quarantino

Rain Partier

Postby Tintin Quarantino » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:23 pm

Everything I had to say about this book I pretty much said in the thread, except that this is the least compelling single issue by Hickman I've ever read.

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