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by **chap22** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:52 pm

Jack Burton wrote:Ka-Zar (Waid) - I think there's a trade that was just put out. I need to track that down.

yes you do. fun stuff.

by **Eli Katz** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:13 am

rdrsfn82 wrote:
That won't happen for the next few days worth since they are already done, but I can try to remember to do that going forward. I've tried to list it in the writeup, but I'll try and remember to bold it or put it up top or something.

Thanks!

by **Stalzer2002** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:46 am

Flash (Peyer) - Oh, there was always a plan with the book. Namely, ruin the book and concept as much as possible in order to clear the way for Barry.

X-Force (Nicieza) - Good stuff, once Liefeld was done. Hell, who am I kidding. At the time, eleven year old me loved the Liefeld stuff too.

Cable (Casey) - For a character that gets a lot of crap, Cable has had some pretty kick ass runs over the years.

Akira - Never read it, but I did see the movie. I didn't think it was anything special.

Fear Agent - A really fun thrill ride.

Judge Dredd (Wagner) - Never read it.

Ka-Zar (Waid) - Never read it.

Marvel Team-Up (DeMatteis) - I've read a few issues here and there. Decent superhero stuff, but nothing special.

by **rdrsfn82** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:32 am

chap22 wrote:that one's coming up too! another patented Chappy writeup!

If you did that, you never sent it to me. Also, you haven't sent me any of the other stuff, some of which will be coming up soon. Get that shit to me now or I'll have to do it myself. Jerkface.

by **chap22** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:53 am

rdrsfn82 wrote:
If you did that, you never sent it to me. Also, you haven't sent me any of the other stuff, some of which will be coming up soon. Get that shit to me now or I'll have to do it myself. Jerkface.

Yes you did, you were awed at the awesomeness of the cover I suggested.

by **rdrsfn82** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:20 pm

chap22 wrote:Yes you did, you were awed at the awesomeness of the cover I suggested.

I remember the cover, but not the writeup. :smt017

by **misac** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:24 pm

Let's start day 3 with a classic from the Golden Age, a fun book from the early 90's, and a zany series from more recently.

149. 14 points - The Spirit (Eisner)

That movie was garbage. Seriously, what a total pile of crap.

Will Eisner created The Spirit in 1940, and was published in a comic that came out alongside the Sunday paper in first one newspaper, but ended up syndicated in 20 papers with a circulation of about 5 million. The stories came in a 16 page comic along with the usual comics section of the paper every Sunday, and The Spirit usually took up about 7 or 8 pages, while running with a couple of backup features.

Despite being drafted into the Army in 1941, the series continued thanks to ghost writers and artists. After the war, Eisner came back to the book, but by the late 40's much of the work was being done by others, as he'd have guys ink his work or even ghost write the stories while he still got the credit on the issues. The final issue came out in late 1952, but it was far from the end for the character. Throughout the rest of his life, The Spirit was reprinted many times by many different companies, and was involved in various new stories over the years, including a series by DC that started in 2007 and ran through 2009 by Darwyn Cooke. Eisner meanwhile went on to be one of the most influential writers in comics history, creating many famous works beyond The Spirit, working on mostly graphic novels right up until he died in 2005, with his last book The Plot completed just before his death.

147 14 points - TIE Harley Quinn (Kesel) - Namor (Byrne)

Harley Quinn (Kesel)
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Created for the 90's Batman cartoon, Harley Quinn is the Joker's sidekick/girlfriend. She became such a popular character that a few episodes of the show were dedicated to her and she was introduced in the main Batman comics, and in 2001 she was given an ongoing series by Karl Kesel and the husband and wife art team of Terry and Rachel Dodson. They took the character out of the Joker's shadow and set her loose on the DCU in a series of wild adventures with a comedic slant, although not as silly as her animated counterpart and had a regular guest spot for Poison Ivy, who is her best friend other than Mista J.

The book attempted to tell mostly done in one stories while Kesel was writing, while also having a side plot connecting the issues. It also attempted to add some depth to the character of Harley and show her in a somewhat sympathetic light without turning her into some sort of full on hero, instead letting her continue to be a mischief maker and at times an outright criminal. The Dodson's left the book after issue 19 (doing all but issue #13 up to that point) and Kesel left after #25. The book continued on for about another year, ending at #38.

Namor (Byrne)

In 1990 John Byrne was given a Namor ongoing series that he both wrote and drew. Starting with issue #26, new comer Jae Lee took over the art. Needless to say, it was a very good looking series. Byrne didn't try to make Namor a traditional hero, instead playing up both his heroic nature and his temper, portraying him as an anti-hero, which was popular at the time thanks to characters like The Punisher. However, unlike some books from this era, that role fit Namor like a glove. Ever since his creation in 1939, he had been used as both a hero and a villain, fighting against the original Human Torch, battling alongside the Invaders, trying to steal Sue Richards from Reed, hanging out with Dr Doom, saving the world with the Defenders, and many other seemingly contradictory roles. His shady actions and nature had made him unique amongst the superhero set for decades, but thanks to the "grim and gritty" era of comics, he was no longer the only character to act in that capacity, although he was still one of the best.

Byrne had Namor deal with his conflicting nature by explaining that his hybrid, half-human/half-Atlantean blood, and that as a result if he stayed either on land or in the ocean too long his rage would win out and he'd start acting erratically. Namor also gained a supporting cast that included a father/daughter team of oceanographers that would help him out over the course of the series. Following Byrne's leaving with issue #33, the book would go through a series of various writers and artists on its way to #65 issues, after which the book was canceled.

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by **rdrsfn82** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:26 pm

I figured out why I lost the entry chap, you sent it in a reply that was still labeled with JMD's MTU run, so I overlooked it. :lol:

Misac, I sent you a PM to get that changed to make sure chap's writeup is used.

by **rdrsfn82** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:31 pm

I really should read that Harley run some day. I love Kesel and I'm a big fan of the character. Plus, despite being fairly big on the cheesecake, I actually enjoy the Dodsons' art most of the time.

by **capjr** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:36 pm

I have a few of the Namor issues....Jae Lee was and is awesome. Bearded Namor was cool...

by **misac** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:47 pm

chap22 wrote:Yes you did, you were awed at the awesomeness of the cover I suggested.

That's actually the cover I had picked to use before seeing the corrected entry.

by **misac** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:48 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:I really should read that Harley run some day. I love Kesel and I'm a big fan of the character. Plus, despite being fairly big on the cheesecake, I actually enjoy the Dodsons' art most of the time.

After seeing that cover I really want to read it.

by **chap22** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:49 pm

misac wrote:
That's actually the cover I had picked to use before seeing the corrected entry.

great minds think alike! :-D

by **chap22** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:50 pm

capjr wrote:I have a few of the Namor issues....Jae Lee was and is awesome. Bearded Namor was cool...

see, i've never been a big fan of Jae Lee on anything, and i DAMN sure thought he was a terrible fit for Namor. but man i loved the Byrne stuff

Spirit -- never read a word of Eisner's stuff (yes, i'm ashamed...), but man i loved the Cooke stuff a few years ago

Harley -- i love Harley, i love Kesel, and i love the Dodsons, but for some reason i just never had any interest in trying that series. maybe some day...

Namor -- and Byrne's Namor was freaking AWESOME. especially considering it brought back Iron Fist, one of my all-time faves, to the land of the living. really fun book

by **S.F. Jude Terror** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:55 pm

I loved Byrne's Namor. I love Byrne. I believe he not only wrote and drew it, but didn't he letter it or something too? Byrne was ridiculous, puts primadonna artists today who can't pencil one book monthly to shame.