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Review Group #259: Fantastic Four #587

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Postby ****** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:29 pm

I ordered a copy of this so I won't have it for a few days, but I've magically found a way to read it without removing it from it's polybag and ruining it's projected MGS riches. Good issue, I'll procrastinate for a few days before writing a review.
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Tintin Quarantino

Rain Partier

Postby Tintin Quarantino » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:01 pm

I want to know exactly what Torch had to do on the other side that Herbie couldn't have simply been instructed to do? :?

Genius kids, my ass.

Don't even get me started on Franklin, who once put the whole team in another universe.

Someone had to die!

Just don't pay much attention as to why.
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Stephen Day

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby Stephen Day » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:47 pm

I can't fit anything extra into my budget this week, so I'm going to have to pass this time.
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Punchy

Staff Writer

Postby Punchy » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:02 pm

What are the odds that most of Victoria Squid's review will be about the Death Bag?
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Amoebas

Son of Stein

Postby Amoebas » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:20 pm

With this issue of the Fantastic Four, Hickman did not disappoint.

Wait a sec - yes he did.

One complaint that I've had with the Fantastic Four since the last days of Waid/Kesel is that they aren't a team. It's like the book is the solo adventures of the Fantastic Four, and on the anniversary of their 50th year the book opens up with, yup, the team not being a team. In fact apart from different panels on the opening page, they're not together anywhere in this book.

That's minus 1.

Valerie Richards - ugh.

That's minus 2.

Sue Richards' story and 'supposed' death threat was some simple political discussion? Yawn. Nice use of an armored arm (but c'mon, it's still her muscles throwing the punch and no way does Namor go down).

Reed Richards is off trying to save a planet from Galactus. That's cool!
The planet is Nu-World. Not cool. Didn't care for the place with Millar and I really didn't care for it when Hickman brought it back (I dropped the FF shortly after that).

There's a big head. Uhm - okay. The Maestro wants to fight (the Hulk Maestro?) but never does (?). They leave the planet. Galactus stands in some reverse Kirby Krackle. Really? That's it? And I thought Sue's story was boring.

And then the main scene. After Hickman dazzles us ( :roll: ) with psuedoscience jargon for what seemed an eternity, the only way to stop the bugs is for someone to stay behind and enter 1-2-3-4 onto a keypad.

My droid doubles as a Tivo remote control and Valerie couldn't figure out how to just radio the code over? It's not like light and sound couldn't get through the barrier (hell a pointed stick could have work at this rate). As someone else said - why not send a HERBIE? Dumb. Just dumb.

And fuck the Avengers for not showing up when called.

Artwise it was okay. Some panels were beautiful (Johnny's last stand) and others were silly (the bighead). The coloring was gawdawful.

Yes, I went in expecting to dislike this issue, and that, is the only thing that Hickman did not disappoint me with.

Story - 0
Art - 5

Overall - 2.5
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Tintin Quarantino

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Postby Tintin Quarantino » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:25 pm

And fuck the Avengers for not showing up when called.


:lol:

Apparently all 9 Avengers teams were busy.

Also, why does the vibranium shield work here? I thought it was all inert now?

And how is Leech shown standing with the other kids two pages and like 15 seconds after being knocked out so Franklin can [barely] use his powers?

If Reed covertly put Leech in Franklin's room to nullify his re-awakened ability, how does Leech know to have himself knocked out? It wouldn't make sense for Reed to actually tell Leech Franklin has his godlike powers back, because kids would invariably tell each other stuff adults don't want them to.
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Eli Katz

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Postby Eli Katz » Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:26 pm

Amoebas wrote:
Yes, I went in expecting to dislike this issue, and that, is the only thing that Hickman did not disappoint me with.

Story - 0
Art - 5

Overall - 2.5

Yikes. But not surprised.
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:50 pm

Just finished the issue and well, in the end it was still a piece of shit. I read all of Hickmans FF over the weekend and what I said of him not knowing how to write Johnny just holds true to his death. Johnny maybe had 2 dozen lines across 18 issues? Also I definitely prefer Eaglesham on art to Epting or Edwards pretending to be Hitch than Epting. He just didn't fit this story or these characters at all. This issue was supposed to be the culmination of all the ties of what's been happening in FF and really it isn't it just feels tacked on again. This run had some great moments and great issues but this wasn't one of them.
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Punchy

Staff Writer

Postby Punchy » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:29 am

All three stores in Leeds sold out of this, so I guess my review will have to wait until the inevitable 2nd print.

Unless one of you MGS reprobates with multiple copies is willing to part with one for cover price?
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:19 pm

Oh and the best moment of this issue was knocking Leach out. That part was awesome.
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Zero

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Postby Zero » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:27 pm

Punchy wrote:All three stores in Leeds sold out of this, so I guess my review will have to wait until the inevitable 2nd print.

Unless one of you MGS reprobates with multiple copies is willing to part with one for cover price?


It's suck if a Leeds Review Grouper had two spare copies already on eBay wouldn't it...
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Amoebas

Son of Stein

Postby Amoebas » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:28 pm

guitarsmashley wrote:Oh and the best moment of this issue was knocking Leach out. That part was awesome.

Even more awesome was how he somehow regained consciousness just a couple panels later. :roll:
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Punchy

Staff Writer

Postby Punchy » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:50 pm

Zero wrote:
It's suck if a Leeds Review Grouper had two spare copies already on eBay wouldn't it...


Yes it would!

Be a pal!
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Tintin Quarantino

Rain Partier

Postby Tintin Quarantino » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:04 pm

Punchy wrote:All three stores in Leeds sold out of this, so I guess my review will have to wait until the inevitable 2nd print.

Unless one of you MGS reprobates with multiple copies is willing to part with one for cover price?


I thought they swore they weren't going back to print on this?
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SilverPhoenix

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Postby SilverPhoenix » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:12 pm

Victorious Squid wrote:
I thought they swore they weren't going back to print on this?


No. They swore they weren't going to overprint.

In other words, whatever the stores order is what's out there. There's no 2nd shipment of the first printing out there.

So either get it now, wait a month for Printing 2, or be at the mercy of the Sellers on E-Bay.

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