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Review Group #259: Fantastic Four #587

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Eric Ratcliffe

Staff Writer

Postby Eric Ratcliffe » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:46 am

This is going to be my worst review ever but:

Hickman I really enjoyed the start of your run, I enjoy the entirety of your supporting cast and some of your crazy ideas. I love Secret Warriors as well but this? I'm starting to think this was editorially mandated. We see at least 2 of Reed's herbie like Doombots running around during the huge battle and it occurs to none of the brain trust to use a herbie bot instead of an actual human being? Or even having Johnny go supernova with Ben and the kids out of danger?

I mean I get it, shock is shock. But the way this is read, it just feels forced. Johnny may be brash at moments but the 20 something Storm is not a complete idiot. It's just....I expect better from Hickman.

The art was the weakest I've seen in a while from Epting, I was disappointed by it.

Over all: You get a 4 FF, for Marvel's supposed want to be flagship book again, you failed.
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Zero

Zombie Guard

Postby Zero » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:26 am

SilverPhoenix wrote:
Here's the thing, someone did try to develop Johnny.

But since that develop took place in the 90's, it was automatically deemed shit and thrown away.


Mark Waid did Johnny really well, I think we was actually the best character in that run.
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Eric Ratcliffe

Staff Writer

Postby Eric Ratcliffe » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:57 am

Mark Waid gave Johnny purpose. The one to ignore that the most? Mark Millar.
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Zero

Zombie Guard

Postby Zero » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:09 am

I'm surprised anyone expected Millar's FF to be readable, even Millar didn't give a shit by the time someone else finished it for him.
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Mammon, Fool Breaker

Peanut

Postby Mammon, Fool Breaker » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:43 am

Cover- Does the cover art contain Galactus??? Barely. The problem with this cover is, the fantastic four is on it... If it only had Galactus it would have scored higher. (6/10)

Story- Jumped into the middle/end of this story arc and i've never read any other fantastic four issues before. sooooo, I was completly lost the whole time. Reed is saving a giant brain from Galactus <--- why isn't he is this issue more? Sue is off punching 2nd string marval Aquaman <---- why isn't Aquaman in this issue more? Johnny and Ben are reenacting Armageddon together spmeplace. Johnny's death is lame and is WAY too much like Bruce Willis's death in the above mentioned film with bugs taking the place of a nuke. He dosn't take a single bug with him... (3/10)

Art- There is a lot of talking in this issue, but nobody ever opens their mouth. This drove me crazy! Is this normal for Marvel comics? or the Fantastic Four in general? (3/10)

Overall- I feel really let down by this, I was expecting a pretty awesome death for the Human Torch. This issue just did not deliver. (4/10)

Final Score (4/10)
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BlueStreak

The Red Stands for Irony

Postby BlueStreak » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:44 am

Mammon, Fool Breaker wrote:Cover- Does the cover art contain Galactus??? Barely. The problem with this cover is, the fantastic four is on it... If it only had Galactus it would have scored higher. (6/10)

Story- Jumped into the middle/end of this story arc and i've never read any other fantastic four issues before. sooooo, I was completly lost the whole time. Reed is saving a giant brain from Galactus <--- why isn't he is this issue more? Sue is off punching 2nd string marval Aquaman <---- why isn't Aquaman in this issue more? Johnny and Ben are reenacting Armageddon together spmeplace. Johnny's death is lame and is WAY too much like Bruce Willis's death in the above mentioned film with bugs taking the place of a nuke. He dosn't take a single bug with him... (3/10)

Art- There is a lot of talking in this issue, but nobody ever opens their mouth. This drove me crazy! Is this normal for Marvel comics? or the Fantastic Four in general? (3/10)

Overall- I feel really let down by this, I was expecting a pretty awesome death for the Human Torch. This issue just did not deliver. (4/10)

Final Score (4/10)


:-D :-D

This was your first Marvel comic, right?
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Punchy

Staff Writer

Postby Punchy » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:20 am

So what are we doing next week with REVIEW GROUP ANNIVERSARY?

3MJ

Postby 3MJ » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:25 am

Punchy wrote:So what are we doing next week with REVIEW GROUP ANNIVERSARY?


IMO front page interview with the person who started the review group, and special mention on the Outhouse ticker at the top.

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Postby ****** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:26 am

Always Right wrote:
IMO front page interview with the person who started the review group, and special mention on the Outhouse ticker at the top.


BS tracked down Thudpucker? Awesome! :shock:
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BlueStreak

The Red Stands for Irony

Postby BlueStreak » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:32 am

Punchy wrote:So what are we doing next week with REVIEW GROUP ANNIVERSARY?


All will be revealed tomorrow.

3MJ

Postby 3MJ » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:32 am

Roger wrote:
BS tracked down Thudpucker? Awesome! :shock:


Classic review group banter.

******

Postby ****** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:36 am

Always Right wrote:
Classic review group banter.


Thread needed a break from the Whaaaaaaaaambulance sirens of the last 5 or 6 reviews.
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Amoebas

Son of Stein

Postby Amoebas » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:39 am

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Did Epting really make Annihilius a frilled lizard?

******

Postby ****** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:41 am

Hey Fool Breaker, Ben's mouth is totally open in Amoebas's last post FYI, in case you missed it.
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Starlord

Outhouse Editor

Postby Starlord » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:58 am

I did read this and I will review it. But I do have to say that this issue went over like a fart in church. What a total waste of promotional money for something that technically did not actually happen. :roll:

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