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Review Group Week #263: The Avengers #10

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Starlord

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Postby Starlord » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:01 pm

Punchy wrote:
Johns is nowhere near being a Great One.


If you're talking about Jackie Gleason then I will agree with you.
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Windom URL

Rain Partier

Postby Windom URL » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:10 pm

Johann Snow wrote:Editorial sabotage in a gross and blatant attempt to sully The Great One's Avengers run. It won't work though, the disciples of The Great One know the truth of what Tom Breevort is hiding under that ridiculous hat he always wears.


Let me guess--that's where Dr. Strange hid his infinity gem, knowing how bad it smells under the hat.
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:48 pm

BlueStreak wrote:
Hence the "could have" portion of the sentence.

Thanos can still show up. Solicits say a major name is coming to earth to lay claim to the jewels. Probably not Thanos, but eh...
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GLX

Outhouse Editor

Postby GLX » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:53 pm

I choose you, Secret Warriors #25!
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Tucker

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Postby Tucker » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:05 pm

Infinity Gauntlet series are always my favorite. :smt026
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Eric Ratcliffe

Staff Writer

Postby Eric Ratcliffe » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:15 am

hopefully reviewing some point this weekend.
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john lewis hawk

Founder of The Outhouse

Postby john lewis hawk » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:32 am

Viktor Ian Skwydde wrote:What I want to know is, if Black Bolt was given the purple gem, why did The Hood retrieve the yellow one from Attilan? :?

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This is easy to solve: there's an Illumnati within the Illuminati. See, Professor Xavier, Black Bolt, Mr. Fantastic, and Dr. Strange know Iron Man is a drunk and Namor is a douche so they can't trust those two. Thus, Black Bolt has Iron Man's and his Gems.
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Eli Katz

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Postby Eli Katz » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:53 pm

I have a number of problems with AVENGERS #10. No, it has nothing to do with the gaps in logic and continuity problems. Because I don't follow the Marvel Universe, I would never pick up on these kinds of flaws. My problems with the book, rather, have to do with the whole storytelling approach.

First, the opening scene with Rulk, Namor, and Thor deep-sea swimming is unnecessarily long. How many pages does it take to convey the really simple point that they are going to the very depths? Certainly it doesn't take three wordless pages devoid of background detail. This is a terrific waste of space that simply decompresses the story and reduces the art duties.

Second, the dialogue is stilted. Bendis, in this issue, is a caricature of himself, filling panel after panel with silly, staccato conversations. The brief exchange between Ant-Man and Iron Fist exemplifies this point:

Ant-Man: Hey

Iron Fist : Hey

Ant-Man: I'm Ant-Man

Iron-Fist: I know that.

Ant-Man: You're Iron Fist.

Iron-Man: I know that, too.

Huh? Bendis has said that he is a big fan of David Mamet -- the playwright and screenwriter famous for his rapid, often-choppy dialogue. But this exchange goes beyond Mamet-speak and resembles, instead, the inane, socially awkward conversations of twelve-year-old boys. These are superheroes for God's sake -- men with tremendous power and intelligence, men who have faced death countless times, men who have saved the world on a regular basis. They should demonstrate more personality and confidence than what Bendis is giving them here.

Finally, the art by Romita, Jr. is weak. The backgrounds are lacking, the fight scenes are cluttered, and the women in this book look like they have all been beaten repeatedly with an ugly stick.

Everything about this book is a disappointment. An issue like this reminds me why I don't read superhero comics anymore.

STORY: 2
ART: 4
OVERALL: 3
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Punchy

Staff Writer

Postby Punchy » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:25 pm

Your criticism of that scene would hold weight, if it featured any character other than Eric O'Grady Ant-Man, who is anything but 'a man with tremendous power and intelligence' and has probably not saved the world even once. Ant-Man mostly uses his powers to look at naked women, and is generally an idiot. That scene conveyed his idiocy (and Iron Fist's impatience with it) perfectly.

Check out Kirkman's 12-issue Irredeemable Ant-Man series.
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:37 pm

I found that to be one of the better scenes.

The Spider-Man/Marvel Boy exchange was bad.
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Windom URL

Rain Partier

Postby Windom URL » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:40 pm

He writes Marvel Boy, or whatever his name is now, he always does a terrible job. Bendis' MB is dead boring compared to the character in the original mini. While I don't mind he is doing something completely different with him, I do mind that it's so hackneyed a portrayal.

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Postby ****** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:51 pm

I thought Marvel Boy was pretty boring in the Morrison mini. I think the only place I've liked the character was in Dark Avengers.
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:54 pm

Viktor Ian Skwydde wrote:He writes Marvel Boy, or whatever his name is now, he always does a terrible job. Bendis' MB is dead boring compared to the character in the original mini. While I don't mind he is doing something completely different with him, I do mind that it's so hackneyed a portrayal.
The Dark Avengers annual that focused on him was good. I was expecting big things from that.

What a letdown.
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Windom URL

Rain Partier

Postby Windom URL » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:58 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:The Dark Avengers annual that focused on him was good. I was expecting big things from that.

What a letdown.


I don't think I read the annual.
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Windom URL

Rain Partier

Postby Windom URL » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:59 pm

Johann Snow wrote:I thought Marvel Boy was pretty boring in the Morrison mini. I think the only place I've liked the character was in Dark Avengers.


That seems weird to me, but :smt102 .

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