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by **sdsichero** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:31 pm

Strict31 wrote:
Then yeah, that's pretty cold. Maybe if being a cold bastard is of greater moral virtue than helping people, that might be alright. I mean...seriously, are you honestly suggesting we shouldn't give aid to a baby or a child because they were born in a country run by dicks? That seems fair to you?

He's a cat.

And an unreasonable poster

by **sdsichero** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:40 pm

ai sus

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8382139/Japan-crisis-third-explosion-raises-spectre-of-nuclear-nightmare.html

Japan crisis: third explosion raises spectre of nuclear nightmare
New explosion at Fukushima plant, as engineers fought to prevent a meltdown in the second worst nuclear accident in history.
By Gordon Rayner and Martin Evans 10:06PM GMT 14 Mar 2011

The Japanese nuclear safety agency says explosion heard at Unit 2 of Fukushima Daiichi plant.

Earlier a cloud of radioactive dust billowed from the Fukushima Daiichi power plant after it suffered its second explosion in three days.

Government officials admitted that it was “highly likely” the fuel rods in three separate reactors had started to melt despite repeated efforts to cool them with sea water. Safety officials said they could not rule out a full meltdown as workers struggled to keep temperatures under control in the cores of the reactors.

The Fukushima crisis now rates as a more serious accident than the partial meltdown at Three Mile Island in the US in 1979, and is second only to the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, according to the French nuclear safety authority. After insisting for three days that the situation was under control, Japan urgently appealed to US and UN nuclear experts for technical help on preventing white-hot fuel rods melting.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said it was “unlikely” that the accident would turn into another Chernobyl, but failed to rule it out completely.

(more at the link)

by **skywatcher** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:43 pm

sdsichero wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8382139/Japan-crisis-third-explosion-raises-spectre-of-nuclear-nightmare.html

Cripes!
(and we're discussing whether we should be helping just because some nations don't appear to be? :roll:

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by **sdsichero** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:49 pm

skywatcher wrote:Cripes!
(and we're discussing whether we should be helping just because some nations don't appear to be? )

blame the cat

by **Victorian Squid** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:54 pm

sdsichero wrote:
Are you checking the social networks? Some of the earlier ways people were tracking one another down was via this type of system. Cell networks went down near the beginning so folks were posting to the internet.

There's also the Google people finder... http://japan.person-finder.appspot.com/

I was thinking if I remember right my friend Yohei has a Facebook acct, but my best friend has been living unplugged for the most part.

Could this be the thing that assimilates me into Faceborg? :shock:

by **Victorian Squid** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:57 pm

skywatcher wrote:Cripes!
(and we're discussing whether we should be helping just because some nations don't appear to be? )

Oh not just that, we're also telling ourselves it could never happen here because our plants are made to withstand anything except something really really big...kind of like Japan was thinking prior to this.

Germany and several other European countries are suspending plans for further nuclear power plant developments that were in the works, BTW.

by **sdsichero** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:57 pm

Xtreme-X wrote:This is Gawd's punishment.

I totally blame you.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/14/japan-nuclear-fukushima-third-reactor

AP reported that the outspoken governor of Tokyo, Shintaro Ishihara, had described the disaster as a "punishment from heaven" because the Japanese had become greedy.

by **sdsichero** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:59 pm

Viscous Skid wrote:Could this be the thing that assimilates me into Faceborg?

Don't do it Janeway!!!

by **Victorian Squid** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:00 pm

I can't believe reports today were that all the stores even in Tokyo were running out of food. :-(

One person said the only food they could find being sold were hotdogs with no buns.

by **skywatcher** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:01 pm

Viscous Skid wrote:
Oh not just that, we're also telling ourselves it could never happen here because our plants are made to withstand anything except something really really big...kind of like Japan was thinking prior to this.

Exactly. Japanese architects are renowned for creating large public buildings designed to withstand earthquakes, so this isn't like Chernobyl where the whole complex was built on the cheap.
I can't help thinking this is far more serious than we are being led to believe.

by **Victorian Squid** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:02 pm

skywatcher wrote:Exactly. Japanese architects are renowned for creating large public buildings designed to withstand earthquakes, so this isn't like Chernobyl where the whole complex was built on the cheap.
I can't help thinking this is far more serious than we are being led to believe.

It always is.

by **sdsichero** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:04 pm

Viscous Skid wrote:I can't believe reports today were that all the stores even in Tokyo were running out of food.

One person said the only food they could find being sold were hotdogs with no buns.

From what my friend says (her husband works for a store), a lot of the food is going to the areas hit hard so a lot of the stock is not really being replenished in many stores.

by **Victorian Squid** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:08 pm

sdsichero wrote:
From what my friend says (her husband works for a store), a lot of the food is going to the areas hit hard so a lot of the stock is not really being replenished in many stores.

I hope the U.N. starts piping in rice and stuff, it seems like the food shortages will only get worse especially with rolling blackouts affecting production, not to mention everything else, for probably months.

by **sdsichero** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:12 pm

Viscous Skid wrote:
I hope the U.N. starts piping in rice and stuff, it seems like the food shortages will only get worse especially with rolling blackouts affecting production, not to mention everything else, for probably months.

I'm more worried about the weather. It's still Winter.

Part of the issue is the food actually getting to the places that need it.

Sendai did a lot of agriculture and manufacturing (as you might have seen the farmland getting run over by the tsunami).

by **Victorian Squid** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:14 pm

sdsichero wrote:
I'm more worried about the weather. It's still Winter.

Part of the issue is the food actually getting to the places that need it.

Sendai did a lot of agriculture and manufacturing (as you might have seen the farmland getting run over by the tsunami).

That's what I was thinking too.

Your friends or family all safe for now then?