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by TerriG » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:47 am
AaronW wrote:Lancel Lannister, her cousin who was squire to the King. Ser Lancel at this point I believe. She keeps it in the family.

ok i couldn't remember his name, thanks!
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by mrorangesoda » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:54 am
AMS wrote:Great episode.
Interesting to see that Dany's hair didn't burn, it did in the books.
Emilia Clarke was probably unwilling to shave her head.
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by TerriG » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:54 am
mrorangesoda wrote:
Emilia Clarke was probably unwilling to shave her head.
they could've used a wig.
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by AaronW » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:55 am
Robb was pretty stupid to send Theon to his father like that IMO.
The show is building on that whole thing, what shocks me here is they added in him asking Robb if they were brothers forever and all that then laying down his sword as they proclaimed him King of the North. That wasn't in the books, I guess it will make the later actions in book/season 2 more shocking.
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by TerriG » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:57 am
AaronW wrote:Robb was pretty stupid to send Theon to his father like that IMO.
The show is building on that whole thing, what shocks me here is they added in him asking Robb if they were brothers forever and all that then laying down his sword as they proclaimed him King of the North. That wasn't in the books, I guess it will make the later actions in book/season 2 more shocking.
A good thing too, because like I had said earlier, what happens in book 2 with Theon was really not well developed by Martin in terms of setting it up for readers.
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by Regulator » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:58 am
TerriG wrote:they could've used a wig.
I think it was a wig anyway, I just don't think they wanted to end the season with Sinead O'Dragons.
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by AaronW » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:58 am
Yeah the way he writes, with a certain group of viewpoint characters, tends to make some things come out of the blue since we were never in Theon's head prior to book 2.
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by TerriG » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:59 am
Regulator wrote:
I think it was a wig anyway, I just don't think they wanted to end the season with Sinead O'Dragons.
they cut arya's hair
it's just silly, they should've made it so dany had singed hair at least.
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by AaronW » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:00 pm
Regulator wrote:
I think it was a wig anyway, I just don't think they wanted to end the season with Sinead O'Dragons.
I like this take on the scene.

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by Regulator » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:03 pm
TerriG wrote:they cut arya's hair
it's just silly, they should've made it so dany had singed hair at least.
Her hair after the cut looked like a wig too, actually. Although Arya's short hair to pass as a boy is a lot more integral to the plot than Daenerys losing hers.
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by mrorangesoda » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:03 pm
What's with people wanting things set up so much? The Greyjoy's failed rebellion is mentioned in the first book and Catelyn warns Rob against sending Theon away in the second. Everything else comes pretty organically after that.
If anything, the show is doing so much set up that in many cases they telegraph really interesting developments (i.e. Littlefinger's big long monologue about his motivations the episode before the big confrontation)
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by TerriG » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:05 pm
mrorangesoda wrote:What's with people wanting things set up so much? The Greyjoy's failed rebellion is mentioned in the first book and Catelyn warns Rob against sending Theon away in the second. Everything else comes pretty organically after that.
If anything, the show is doing so much set up that in many cases they telegraph really interesting developments (i.e. Littlefinger's big long monologue about his motivations the episode before the big confrontation)
TV is different than the books. In the books, you can make the excuse that "you didn't read that line" for the set up to something, but in a show it's harder to do that without sometimes pointing to what viewers should notice.
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by AaronW » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:09 pm
mrorangesoda wrote:What's with people wanting things set up so much? The Greyjoy's failed rebellion is mentioned in the first book and Catelyn warns Rob against sending Theon away in the second. Everything else comes pretty organically after that.
If anything, the show is doing so much set up that in many cases they telegraph really interesting developments (i.e. Littlefinger's big long monologue about his motivations the episode before the big confrontation)
It was cleverly hidden by the whore sticking her thumb in the other whores pooper. Nobody paid attention to the dialog.

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by mrorangesoda » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:13 pm
TerriG wrote:TV is different than the books. In the books, you can make the excuse that "you didn't read that line" for the set up to something, but in a show it's harder to do that without sometimes pointing to what viewers should notice.
They need to leave room for shock though. I felt bad for friends not reading the books who told me a week earlier that Ned was totally going to be betrayed and fail. I was shocked in the book, they clearly wanted you to be shocked at the end of the episode, but they built a neon sign out of that scene in the whore house.
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by David Bird » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:32 pm
Regulator wrote:
I think it was a wig anyway, I just don't think they wanted to end the season with Sinead O'Dragons.
Aesthetics was probably a big part of it. Television is a visual medium and many viewers might have found a bald woman a little... strange.
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