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Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby BlueStreak » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:57 am

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Red Wing #1
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Scripts: Jonathan Hickman
Pencils: Nick Pitarra
Pencils: Rachelle Rosenberg

"Learning to Fly"

To stay alive in the future, the best fighter pilots in the world not only have to perfect their skills and master their aircraft, they also have to know how to travel through time. The Red Wing is the story of the greatest battle in the history of the history of three worlds


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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby Punchy » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:58 am

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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby BlueStreak » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:07 am

Hickman is one of the stronger long-form storytellers out there today, who really excels in the "Wheels Within Wheels" type of storytelling. However, with The Red Wing being a miniseries, it should be interesting to see what Hickman does with a story with an epic feel to it in the first issue.

The Red Wing is about a war in time. Although we don't know the reasons, the enemies or the objective of the wars, we do know that it allegedly claimed the life of the protagonist, Dominic's father. Dominic's father was a Red Wing pilot, who's only shown purpose is to get shot down by alien spacecraft. Dominic, pulling a Hal Jordan, decides to follow in his father's footsteps and become a pilot too. Throughout the issue, we learn of Dominic's father's fate and see one of the risks of having a dogfight in time.

The strongest part of the book is Nick Pitarra's pencils. I think it's safe to say that one of the big two (probably Marvel) will scoop this guy up in the upcoming months as he's the real deal. Also, Hickman's usual meta-sciencey gooblygook is gotten out of the way early and actually relates to the plot in a direct way that doesn't require a recap issue at the end of the second volume to fill in the blanks.

Overall, The Red Wing is a solid read and shows why Jonathan Hickman is considered to be one of the best in the business today. If you enjoy comics, get this book.

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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby GLX » Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:26 pm

It was a weird read. I'm gonna have to give a couple more reads before I write on it.
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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby Royal Nonesuch » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:16 pm

BlueStreak wrote:Hickman is one of the stronger long-form storytellers out there today, who really excels in the "Wheels Within Wheels" type of storytelling. However, with The Red Wing being a miniseries, it should be interesting to see what Hickman does with a story with an epic feel to it in the first issue.


I don't understand what you mean here.
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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby Rockman » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:35 pm

I didn't get it :-(

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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby ****** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:07 pm

Royal Nonesuch wrote:
I don't understand what you mean here.


I think he means that he hasn't read Hickman's superior creator owned work and doesn't realize that he can tell a rich, fully developed story in 4 issues.

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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby Royal Nonesuch » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:43 pm

John Snow wrote:
I think he means that he hasn't read Hickman's superior creator owned work and doesn't realize that he can tell a rich, fully developed story in 4 issues.


I assumed it was something along those lines, but I figured I'd ask just in case.
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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby fieldy snuts » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:11 pm

I went into this week blind and didn't even know it was a Hickman book till I read the cover.

Haven't gotten to it yet...really big week this time, I'll have something by tomorrow.

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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby BlueStreak » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:51 pm

John Snow wrote:
I think he means that he hasn't read Hickman's superior creator owned work and doesn't realize that he can tell a rich, fully developed story in 4 issues.


I've read Pax Romana and found it to be infinitely inferior to Secret Warriors.
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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby Amoebas » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:55 pm

BlueStreak wrote:Amoebas
RED indicate that no review or explanation has been posted in two weeks.

I posted twice in Jonah that my switch to bi-weekly shipping delayed delivery - plus I found a copy early and posted a review. :D

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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby ****** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:04 pm

BlueStreak wrote:
I've read Pax Romana and found it to be infinitely inferior to Secret Warriors.


That's the most wrong statement I've seen posted on the internet this month.

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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby Amoebas » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:06 pm

270. Uncanny X-Men #535 - 7.50
271. Thunderbolts #156
272. Walking Dead #84
273. Avengers Academy #13
274. Fear Itself: Youth in Revolt #1
275. Hawkeye: Blindspot #4
276. Nice Spencer Double Team!
277. SHIELD #1 - 5.67
278. Flashpoint: Emperor Aquaman #1-5.48


What were the scores for 271 - 276?

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Re: Review Group Week #283: Red Wing #1

Postby BlueStreak » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:15 pm

On an unrelated note, I'm now accepting applications for temporary tyrant for the week of August 15th with an option for a longer tenure.
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