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by **Psivage** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:03 pm

Johnny Smith wrote:Marvel better not bring back Johnny Storm. His death DID matter.
Deaths should matter and NO-ONE should be bought back to life.

This better not be another case of comics standing still and re-embracing the status quo. It's costing the industry readers, and it's boring to read the same stories where nothing changes.

It will be. And nothing ever changes in comics.

They wouldn't dare. Only creator own stuff really take the chances on changing. Sure there will be someone in the costume once in awhile but eventually it the original will come back.

by **Potter Who** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:20 pm

People who are interested in FF's direction might enjoy listening to one of the more recent Word Balloon Comics Podcasts with Hickman. The one from 7/27.

by **Zechs** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:26 pm

Apache Chef wrote:Fantastic Four #600?

Come on.. like they really would not celebrate that? I mean geez.

Obviously one can hope that when this new Four return it ditches RICHARDS and has a true leader and hero one can appreciate.. Dr. Doom. What?

by **sdsichero** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:29 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:
That's it, kill a perfectly good internet rumor I just started so Joe Q would get his chops busted by the fans.

So what was the perfectly good rumor?

by **rdrsfn82** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:30 pm

Johnny Smith wrote:Marvel better not bring back Johnny Storm. His death DID matter.
Deaths should matter and NO-ONE should be bought back to life.

This better not be another case of comics standing still and re-embracing the status quo. It's costing the industry readers, and it's boring to read the same stories where nothing changes.

Except he never died. A door closed and he was left off panel. There was no big death, he wasn't shown dead at any point, his body wasn't seen, and it all happened off panel.

It was a terrible and weak death, even if some of the reactions after the fact were well done.

by **SilverPhoenix** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:38 pm

::YAWN::If they are bringing him back this soon (key word here being "if") then my decision to pretty much ignore this storyline has paid off immensely. After everything that's been happening with Bucky, I don't think I'll ever take a main universe Big 2 "death storyline" seriously ever again.

by **skywatcher** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:42 pm

SilverPhoenix wrote:I don't think I'll ever take a main universe Big 2 "death storyline" seriously ever again.

It's taken you this long???

by **sdsichero** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:45 pm

SilverPhoenix wrote:::YAWN::If they are bringing him back this soon (key word here being "if") then my decision to pretty much ignore this storyline has paid off immensely. After everything that's been happening with Bucky, I don't think I'll ever take a main universe Big 2 "death storyline" seriously ever again.

You shouldn't. It's comics.

by **Zechs** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:53 pm

SilverPhoenix wrote:::YAWN::If they are bringing him back this soon (key word here being "if") then my decision to pretty much ignore this storyline has paid off immensely. After everything that's been happening with Bucky, I don't think I'll ever take a main universe Big 2 "death storyline" seriously ever again.

U mad?

by **SilverPhoenix** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:55 pm

skywatcher wrote:It's taken you this long???

Yeah. I should've wised up to the game when Captain America Reborn was announced. It would've saved me a lot of money (I didn't spend one fucking cent on Reborn, btw) and an incalculable amount of stress.

by **SilverPhoenix** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:02 pm

Zechs wrote:

U mad?

: Pats Zechs on Head: About Johnny Storm? Ha. That would require me to care about Johnny Storm (something I haven't done for years). That was me commenting on how old hat Marvel's stunt writing kick has gotten lately.

by ****** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:04 pm

SilverPhoenix wrote:
Yeah. I should've wised up to the game when Captain America Reborn was announced. It would've saved me a lot of money (I didn't spend one fucking cent on Reborn, btw) and an incalculable amount of stress.

Comic deaths cause you stress??? :lol:

by **SilverPhoenix** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:11 pm

John Snow wrote:
Comic deaths cause you stress???

Comic deaths by themselves? Beyond the emotional reaction that some of them generate, nope.

Actual good stories that get destroyed by extraneous nonsense? Very much so.

by **Amoebas** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:34 pm

Potter Who wrote:According to interviews, Johnny's death did matter to Hickman, but only really in the sense that it provides a context for the stories Hickman really wants to tell about the Fantastic Four after they're reunited.

Johnny: I'm back.
Everyone: Hurray.
Johnny: And FUCK YOU everyone. You never saw me dead, you just let them take me. And nobody came looking for me? Even if you thought I was dead, no one tried to bring my body home? Face it fuckwads - you left me there. And why the hell was I there in the first place - to push a button? WTF? Send a fuckin HERBIE next time will ya? I'm outs here, going to DC where I can be rebooted into a world without such sorry-ass "friends". Fuck you.