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by **Victorian Squid** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:27 pm

BlueStreak wrote:
Do we have confirmation that it was only the leaked copy? Serious question. (If so, it means that the leaker can be traced and canned)

And how do you know that a patch can be made. You're speculating. We don't know comixology's capabilities. You're presuming that they can and would do such a thing.

The confirmation has been that the comixology digital comic for sale is being compared to the print version, with differences on several pages. And that's been confirmed by readers here as well, unless they were lying and pirated their version which I do not believe.

by **Punchy** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:29 pm

Mike Mercury wrote:
This is how I would feel as a digital consumer, and what many people elsewhere have said. Almost the same is not the same. And with DC running their books so close to the publishing deadlines right now, this being the first release could be a sign of more trouble down the line with unfinished product being sent to digital outlets and sold to consumers.

WOULD

You're not a digital consumer, so why care, all the people in this thread who did download it... they didn't care.

COULD

by **Victorian Squid** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:33 pm

Punchy wrote:
WOULD

You're not a digital consumer, so why care, all the people in this thread who did download it... they didn't care.

COULD

Now you just sound dumb. Who is the obsessed one here? It's you, sweetheart. :smt008

by **alaska1125** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:34 pm

Punchy wrote:
WOULD

You're not a digital consumer, so why care, all the people in this thread who did download it... they didn't care.

COULD

Exactly.

by **Punchy** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:34 pm

Mike Mercury wrote:
Now you just sound dumb. Who is the obsessed one here? It's you, sweetheart.

No, it's you.

by **Victorian Squid** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:35 pm

by **MrBlack** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:39 pm

Punchy wrote:
But there are no differences between those two, the article on BC was a leaked pirate.

No, it wasn't.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/08/31/ ... d-digital/

Well, we can at least confirm that the pirated copy of Justice League #1 was from a pre-sale copy of the printed comic rather than an early ComiXology digital file.

Indeed, rather than going up two hours before print sale, the pirated copy seems to have gone up six hours before…

Anyway, we know because there are small differences between the print version and the ComiXology digital version.

This is significant because the people who are paying full price for a license to read the digital version of the comic are not even getting the fully edited, finished version of the comic.

Does the missing dialogue make the digitally licensed version worthless? Probably not. Aside from a few missing lines of dialogue, they appear to be the same. This is, however, the first of several comics that are going to get a same day digital launch, and there are already discrepencies, and it does raise worries about how far these changes might go in the future.

by **Victorian Squid** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:40 pm

MrBlack wrote:No, it wasn't.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/08/31/ ... d-digital/

This is significant because the people who are paying full price for a license to read the digital version of the comic are not even getting the fully edited, finished version of the comic.

Does the missing dialogue make the digitally licensed version worthless? Probably not. Aside from a few missing lines of dialogue, they appear to be the same. This is, however, the first of several comics that are going to get a same day digital launch, and there are already discrepencies, and it does raise worries about how far these changes might go in the future.

NUH-UH!!!!

/punchy&somerandomdudewhosenameiforgot'd

by **BlueStreak** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:42 pm

Punchy wrote:
WOULD

You're not a digital consumer, so why care, all the people in this thread who did download it... they didn't care.

COULD

I agree. Screw the digital downloaders. Why do they need to know that they're being sold an inferior product to a hard copy? They don't need to know this crap.

by **Victorian Squid** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:46 pm

We're all potential digital content consumers--and even if we were die-hard print consumers at the local LCS, these digital initiatives affect the brick and mortar component as well. We have every reason to stay abreast of these new initiatives and their strengths and (in this case) weaknesses. :smt102

by **alaska1125** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:59 pm

BlueStreak wrote:
I agree. Screw the digital downloaders. Why do they need to know that they're being sold an inferior product to a hard copy? They don't need to know this crap.

Puzzling. I read the digital copy. I didn't find it to be an "inferior product". More to the point, when pointed out that some line of dialogue had been changed, I really couldn't have cared less. Did it change the overall content of the book in any meaningful way? Not that I'm aware of. Neither did I find the quality of the art to be lacking. So at the end of the day, I, a digital consumer, can't understand why someone, clearly a non-digital consumer (and possibly even anti-digital for all I know), can get so bent out whack over this issue. That happened once. In what can arguably be considered the beginning of a seizmic shift in digital distribution.

by **Zechs** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:03 pm

Okay to get you into a scanned comic and how hard. It could be several leaks. The only way to tell is usually at the end of the scanned comic since the person who scanned it put a page saying "Scanned by ___" sort of like what was posted on BC with the Pirates saying adios.

Regardless, it all depends on the original source it's posted on. Sometimes it can be one site and then expand to other sites. When I used to and (honestly could still if I wanted but don't for the most part) it came from someone who posted it from another board (maybe it was ComiXology or not. I don't know. I just know it's always hanging around the one site I visit).

Also depending on the pirate, their qualities go from perfect to not so good. Though when it's on, the page can be leaps and bounds better then the actual "official" source. And when it's like that who are you really going to get the better copy from? Pay $4 for a horrific copy or download one for free that has crisp and perfect. I know this is a new area for DC thus there will be errors all abound. This is a learning process for them and in six months hopefully the process is corrected. Or why not just hire the freaking pirates since their scanners are freaking superior to DC's.

I just know if Marvel or DC want to end this.. they need to cut it off from the source and make stricter guidelines from the sellers who obviously have employees or themselves who are doing this hence the quick and easy access. It obviously ain't people like myself or Punchy for example. Because how do get access to comics like that when we can't? It has to be from the sellers themselves.

by **MrBlack** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:05 pm

alaska1125 wrote:
Puzzling. I read the digital copy. I didn't find it to be an "inferior product". More to the point, when pointed out that some line of dialogue had been changed, I really couldn't have cared less. Did it change the overall content of the book in any meaningful way? Not that I'm aware of. Neither did I find the quality of the art to be lacking. So at the end of the day, I, a digital consumer, can't understand why someone, clearly a non-digital consumer (and possibly even anti-digital for all I know), can get so bent out whack over this issue. Thnat happened once. In what can arguably be considered the beginning of a seizmic shift in digital distribution.

Do the changes make the comic unreadable? Of course not. However, as a potential digital consumer myself (I have been hugely in favor of day-and-date digital releases, and have considered a digital subscription if I get a tablet) this concerns me. The digital license v. actual file thing seriously turned me off, and the fact that the digital downloaders aren't even getting a fully edited comic isn't helping anything. I understand the problems faced by DC in having to get approval for the content they put on line, but they've had time to work this out beforehand. How bad is it going to get down the road when deadlines get even tighter?

by **BAMJoe** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:05 pm

MrBlack wrote:No, it wasn't.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/08/31/ ... d-digital/

This is significant because the people who are paying full price for a license to read the digital version of the comic are not even getting the fully edited, finished version of the comic.

Does the missing dialogue make the digitally licensed version worthless? Probably not. Aside from a few missing lines of dialogue, they appear to be the same. This is, however, the first of several comics that are going to get a same day digital launch, and there are already discrepencies, and it does raise worries about how far these changes might go in the future.

Maybe since it was the first to come out, they had less time and the future ones will have no changes.

by **Victorian Squid** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:08 pm

Yeah, with the pirated files being of better quality (and I've read that a lot) and also being an actual file and not a license to stream a book, I don't think many downloaders will want to switch at this point. And IMO those are the people there's actually a chance to draw back in if done in a way that caters to what they want for a reasonable price. Some of them, at least. A better chance than drawing outsiders in to buy monthly comics at this point.

(to zechs)