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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby avengingtitan » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:41 am

Doc Spider wrote:
What's a lot?

I can name maybe a couple I thought were "good".

Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob, Clerks the Cartoon, Clerks 2, Jersey Girl (I liked it), His Q&A tapes, Zach and Miri make a porno, oh this little film called RED STATE!!!

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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby Doc Jon » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:43 am

avengingtitan wrote:Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob, Clerks the Cartoon, Clerks 2, Jersey Girl (I liked it), His Q&A tapes, Zach and Miri make a porno, oh this little film called RED STATE!!!


If you thought all of those were good movies, then we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby avengingtitan » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:49 am

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If you thought all of those were good movies, then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I enjoyed them all. Jersey Girl was the worst but its still pretty good.

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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby covalesky » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:07 am

Both are awesome, but I have to go with Star Wars, if nothing else because it made a bigger impact on me the first time I saw it.

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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby Keb » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:18 am

covalesky wrote:Both are awesome, but I have to go with Star Wars, if nothing else because it made a bigger impact on me the first time I saw it.

I saw Star Wars when I was young and I totally got into it. I saw LOTR in my late teens and I totally got into it. Star Wars, while I still like it, has become a phase for me. LotR has been the one fantasy adventure story that my realism-obsessed ass can get behind. The difference between the two for me is that Lucas doing the prequels after the sequels totally ruined that shit for me. Plus all of the stuff between movies, like the cartoons and shit, it just drags the story out. We know what happens between the first three installments of LotR because they pick up one after the other. Even with the Hobbit, we know what happens. All the stuff between the books is listed in the appendices, which are supplemental. Between movies 2 and 3 of the prequel trilogy, there's this bloody long saga called the Clone Wars that happened that I need to know about before watching the third movie. Kinda wack.

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Postby covalesky » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:29 am

Keb wrote:I saw Star Wars when I was young and I totally got into it. I saw LOTR in my late teens and I totally got into it. Star Wars, while I still like it, has become a phase for me. LotR has been the one fantasy adventure story that my realism-obsessed ass can get behind. The difference between the two for me is that Lucas doing the prequels after the sequels totally ruined that shit for me. Plus all of the stuff between movies, like the cartoons and shit, it just drags the story out. We know what happens between the first three installments of LotR because they pick up one after the other. Even with the Hobbit, we know what happens. All the stuff between the books is listed in the appendices, which are supplemental. Between movies 2 and 3 of the prequel trilogy, there's this bloody long saga called the Clone Wars that happened that I need to know about before watching the third movie. Kinda wack.


When I first saw both trilogies, never was I left with the impression I needed to know more. All the cartoons, extra books and so on is just new stories, you either like it or not, there isn't a single need to know thing in the cartoons that aren't in the movies (SW wise).

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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby Keb » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:39 am

I had no clue who General Greivous was until I saw the Genndy cartoon. And that was like five minutes long.

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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby Doc Jon » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:42 am

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When I first saw both trilogies, never was I left with the impression I needed to know more. All the cartoons, extra books and so on is just new stories, you either like it or not, there isn't a single need to know thing in the cartoons that aren't in the movies (SW wise).



This was true of the original, not of the Prequels.

Many things are left to other sources if you actually want to understand what was going on in the Prequels. We had a huge discussion about this, but here's the most important question, what the hell did the Sith want and why?

True, they are just evil sons of bitches. But why do they hate the Jedi. 6 movies and we don't have an answer in any of them.

Plus you have supposedly important characters like Grievous who have no background or story.
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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby US Agent » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:45 am

LOTR - extended editions. I can watch them over and over and can't wait to add the Hobbit movies to that viewing pleasure.

I can't even leave Spike on for 5 minutes when they're constantly replaying the Star Wars movie.

For me the height of the original Star Wars movies was when Vader reveals he's Luke's father. One of the best scenes ever and the prequels took a huge dump on it. No longer will any new viewer to the series find that scene to be as powerful now that they have to watch little orphan Annie through the first three movies. Nope. I can't stand Star Wars.

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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby Doc Jon » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:48 am

US Agent wrote:LOTR - extended editions. I can watch them over and over and can't wait to add the Hobbit movies to that viewing pleasure.

I can't even leave Spike on for 5 minutes when they're constantly replaying the Star Wars movie.

For me the height of the original Star Wars movies was when Vader reveals he's Luke's father. Once of the best scenes ever and the prequels took a huge dump on it. No longer will any new viewer to the series find that scene to be as powerful now that they have to watch little orphan Annie through the first three movies. Nope. I can't Star Wars.


I agree. I love STar Wars, but it peaked at Empire. There was still some really good stuff in Return, but it's been a spiral downwards ever since.
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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby Greg » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:55 am

This is one of the hardest decisions ever. :?
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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby Spidey-Man » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:55 am

A lot of the lord of the rings is dull.

It’s also a big deviation from the source material

And it’s way too long.

And it features too many shots of gay hobbits staring at each other longingly.

It was not that fun.


On the other hand, since it was made back to back to back and based on books, it has the luxury of more evenness of quality and consistency.

But it's still not that fun.

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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby Greg » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:55 am

LOTR's is crazy fun! :x
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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby Spidey-Man » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:57 am

if you like gay hobbits sure.

the books are much better.

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Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars

Postby Greg » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:58 am

I saw no gay hobbits. I saw close friends with a strong bond willing to be there for each other through thick and thin.
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