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Only 1840 times? Turn in your nerd card you amateur.

[john lewis hawk]

Only 1840 times? Turn in your nerd card you amateur.

I have the damn commercial to see, you ass!! I would've posted more but I'm too busy jerking it to Robert Downey Jr.

[rdrsfn82]

Oh, I know, he normally does the Time-W@rner thing.

I don't care about TW (even though their cable service sucked), but I do hate WB more and more with each passing moment. No Captain Marvel/Shazam! franchise, no JLA, no Wonder Woman, no Flash, a mediocre-to-disappointing Green Lantern, etc. etc. A conglomerate of that level should have DC competing with Marvel/Disney on multiple fronts (cinema, TV, online-based entertainment, direct-to-DVD, etc.) I'd give them some kudos for Batman: The Brave & The Bold and Young Justice, but their own company (Cartoon Network) shuffled the former to an early cancellation and has almost sealed the fate of the latter.

At this point, I'm hoping that we at least get more from their animated division (since that's the only beyond-comics media output that's worth a damn).

But I digress... back to the awesomeness that will be The Avengers.

I hate WB being retarded as much as anyone, but Brave and the Bold had 65 episodes made (64 actually airing since the Birds of Prey one ended up never airing). For a modern cartoon, that's fantastic. I mean, there was like 25 episodes of Spectacular Spider-Man or Legion of Superheroes. Lots of shows get fucked far worse than Brave and the Bold did.

That said, as to the larger issue of WB having no clue what to do with their superheroes, that's dead on. They are so busy trying to ground their shit in some bullshit idea of reality and trying to make sure not to alienate people, and it's just fucking dumb.

Here's an Avengers movie coming off a series of movies where we saw Frost Giants, Asgard, the Red Skull shooting lasers in WWII made of the energy of the Cosmic Cube, Hulk vs the Abomination in the middle of (fake) Harlem, Iron Man and War Machine vs an army of killer robots, Whiplash, Iron Monger, the birth of The Leader, Iron Man rediscovering the power of the Cosmic Cube, the Cask of Ancient Winters, the Destroyer, Cap frozen in ice, and just about every other comic booky, unrealistic, off the wall, type of thing you'd expect from stories with Cap, Iron Man, Thor, and Hulk. And the reason they worked wasn't some bullshit attempt to ground it all in reality or tone down the comic book stuff, but rather a full on embrace of it while still bringing in quality writers, actors, and directors who fit the material and put forth a serious effort to make the best stuff they could with the products. Meanwhile WB brings in people without a cohesive vision, or they avoid making movies in the first place for fear that the audience can't handle real bright and shiny superheroics.

Marvel has had the power to build this for like 10 years, and has brought us 5 awesome movies and now an Avengers franchise is born.

WB has had DC for 40+ years and hasn't done shit except a few great Batman and Superman movies and a Green Lantern movie that was filled with untapped potential (I still like the movie, despite the haters, but it's not nearly on par with the Marvel stuff and has some major flaws that I'm willing to overlook because I just love GL) that all live in their own little worlds and can't interact, plus Smallville (the closest they've ever gotten to a shared world, and even as someone that enjoys it, it's sad that's the best they've ever done). Oh and then a bunch of shitty fucking wastes of film like Catwoman or Steel or the various shitty Superman and Batman movies that are just as numerous as the good ones.

I hope that The Avengers makes a billion dollars and gets WB to pull their heads out of their asses and give us the Justice League movie that blows this into a full on rivalry and gives us a ton of great stuff from both sides, but I have no faith in them to actually do it.

[rdrsfn82]

The Avengers trailer on TV was awesome.

The extended cut nearly melted my brain.

Can't fucking wait to see this movie.

[rdrsfn82]

He's been great in the roles he's been in.

Awesome in The Hurt Locker.

Awesome in The Town.

Great in Mission Impossible 4.

I also enjoyed his TV show, The Unusuals. As one of the 12 people that watched it, he was lots of fun on there.

[rdrsfn82]

I liked the Unusuals

High five.

[nietoperz]

Seriously, that scene at the end with them all standing back to back just made me stand up and cheer. I don't think I've ever looked forward to a movie more than this one.

And also: Nate's right. Imagine that scene with the JLA big 7!

[Jubilee]

That was pretty cool. Nice seeing the characters together.

I think this film could be pretty decent. I wonder if any of the Avengers will die during the film?

[Jubilee]

I have to admit I'm kind of worried.

I mean, yeah the group shot was awesome, but all this talk of Atlanteans, Aliens etc etc.

I do hope they keep the groundedness of films like Iron Man and even Cap. I don't like over the top villains, and think that the worst part of the Avengers films so far have been the bits involving the Red Skull and the Frost Giants.

If anyone can pull this off though, it's Marvel.

[Jubilee]

Also rds, I don't think they've embraced the comic book universe at all. I think the fact we don't know who the villains are yet sort of implies the opposite. I think Iron man 1 and Cap implies the opposite, and I think a large proportion of Thor implies the opposite. All of these films have taken the most realistic route they could have with the characters, and it's very interesting that characters like Hawkeye and Black Widow have been chosen. All powerless.

They keep talking about the next wave of Marvel movies. I hope they're not some magic/mystic bullshit.

Overall that trailer looked decent enough, but it didn't dispel my fears. There was no show of the villains, and there was no real action shown.

I read a rumor somewhere that the Avengers budget got cut after Green Lantern come out, and Marvel told Joss "Focus on the characters, do not make an over the top comic book movie ,they don't work", I think a little bit of that may work in the Avengers movie verse.

[doombug]

Also rds, I don't think they've embraced the comic book universe at all. I think the fact we don't know who the villains are yet sort of implies the opposite. I think Iron man 1 and Cap implies the opposite, and I think a large proportion of Thor implies the opposite. All of these films have taken the most realistic route they could have with the characters, and it's very interesting that characters like Hawkeye and Black Widow have been chosen. All powerless.

They keep talking about the next wave of Marvel movies. I hope they're not some magic/mystic bullshit.

Overall that trailer looked decent enough, but it didn't dispel my fears. There was no show of the villains, and there was no real action shown.

I read a rumor somewhere that the Avengers budget got cut after Green Lantern come out, and Marvel told Joss "Focus on the characters, do not make an over the top comic book movie ,they don't work", I think a little bit of that may work in the Avengers movie verse.

You hear that idiotic rumor from a voice in your own head?

[Punchy]

Just seen the Superbowl trailer... awesome.

[Vic Vega]

I chuckled a little when the camera panned around the Avengers in the street and there was Thor wielding his giant hammer, Captain America raising his mighty shield, Hawkeye preparing his big ass bow...and Black Widow clutching that itty bitty gun.

At least she has an automatic.

But it reminded me a LOT of that scene from "I'm Gonna Git You Sucka" where all the Blackplotation heroes are shooting guns except for the Jim Kelly-type karate dude who is throwing Shiruken.

[Spidey-Man]

If you look real close, her wrist bands start to light up.

[Starlord]

That scene at the end where they were all standing in the circle really was awesome to see. Now I'm geeked as hell about this movie.