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by **sdsichero** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:56 pm

Holland Oats wrote:Guys.. why do you encourage him?

Outhouse is a mean place. Posters here like to pick on little girls.

by **Jubilee** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:03 pm

Well pdh laughed that's all that matters .

by **PDH** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:38 pm

Nobody loves me wrote:Well pdh laughed that's all that matters .

I am the barometer for what matters.

by **Spidey-Man** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:36 am

The President wrote:The reason Hawkeye and Black Widow are in this is the same reason why Nick Fury is black. These are the Ultimates, not the Avengers.

And yes, I know Pym (as Giant Man) and Wasp were in Ultimates, but it makes sense why they picked who they did.

most of the characters seem pretty different than they did in the ultimates.

by **Timbales** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:42 am

The President wrote:The reason Hawkeye and Black Widow are in this is the same reason why Nick Fury is black. These are the Ultimates, not the Avengers.

I think the reason they are using Hawkeye and Black Widow is because the effects for them are a lot cheaper.

by **Doc Jon** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:19 am

Timbales wrote:
I think the reason they are using Hawkeye and Black Widow is because the effects for them are a lot cheaper.

Agreed.

What other non-powered prominent Avengers are there?

by **Starlord** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:24 am

Doc Jon wrote:
Agreed.

What other non-powered prominent Avengers are there?

Black Panther would have been cool.

by **Timbales** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:26 am

I think it makes sense to avoid Pym and Janet and the use of Pym particles. If SHEILD had access to that kind of thing, why would they need to recruit superheros? They could just give their agents the ability to shrink and grow.

by **KingPagla** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:30 am

I'm thinking that the choosing of Hawkeye and Widow goes back to what someone (Rdrs?) was saying about these movies being about characters first. Clint and Natasha (as opposed to Hawkeye and Widow) are just more immediately interesting than Hank and Jan, or Carol or Simon.
This is a crowded cast, so a lot of time can't be spent getting the audience to invest in the characters. The Second stringers need to be easy "reads."

by **Doc Jon** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:36 am

Starlord wrote:
Black Panther would have been cool.

Yeah, but incredibly complicated backstory.

And what would an African monarch really be doing on what is a US government assembled team (in the movie incarnation).

by **Starlord** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:57 am

Doc Jon wrote:
Yeah, but incredibly complicated backstory.

And what would an African monarch really be doing on what is a US government assembled team (in the movie incarnation).

Slumming? Hanging out with a brother? :smt102

Actually they could have explained it as him being deposed or something, might even give a reason for a second movie.

Still between him and Hawkeye I'd still go with the Hawk.

by **e_galston** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:05 am

Doc Jon wrote:
Agreed.

What other non-powered prominent Avengers are there?

Mockingbird, Falcon,

by **Jubilee** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:22 am

http://comicsgossip.blogspot.com/2012/0 ... up-in.html

I think that sounds pretty cool, some hints towards that would be great.

by **ReturnoftheMack** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:32 am

Spidey-Man wrote:
most of the characters seem pretty different than they did in the ultimates.

Hawkeye seems to be exactly the same as the Ultimates version.
The Avengers work for SHIELD.
The Hulk is used as a secret weapon not to get the team together.
Fury is black.
Stark seems more like Ultimate Stark IMO.

But I also agree that budget concerns were probably Hawkeye and Widow were chosen.