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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby eltopo » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:50 pm

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That's a lot better than the alternative.

"the bible ? so you accept jesus christ as your personal savior too?
*six months later, gets to hold her hand as she cries about how she was pretty sure she was roofied at a party because she had a bottle and a half of Smirnoff Ice and felt dizzy.

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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby guitarsmashley » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:26 pm

or we could owe it to penis into the vagina.
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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby misac » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:33 pm

eltopo wrote:yeah I'd go for them
as a Atheist myself I find that the loudest Atheist voices are usually the most douchey (Richard Dawkins,Bill Mahr) so I figure a rally would be full of people like that.


Yeah, they're just as bad as their religious counterparts. :smt102
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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby Benderbrau » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:35 pm

Do black people owe their existence as black people to white people because without whites they wouldn't be called blacks right? :smt102
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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby Victorian Squid » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:50 pm

I like Richard Dawkins! Of course I mainly read his books before he became the spokesperson for secularism, I guess.

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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby PDH » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:07 am

I guess I'm not really interested in 'this group is just as annoying as that group' conversations. I'm more interested in the question of whether there's a God or not. The rudeness of various people has pretty much nothing to do with that.

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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby PDH » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:08 am

Victorian Squid wrote:I like Richard Dawkins! Of course I mainly read his books before he became the spokesperson for secularism, I guess.


His science books are absolutely fantastic.

For those people who have a problem with Dawkins, forget the God Delusion, read the Selfish Gene.

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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby David Bird » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:23 am

US Agent wrote:Just wondering.

I read there is going to be a Atheists Rally in DC coming up and it got me thinking.

If it wasn't for people who believe in God, would there be no people who didn't believe in God?

:smt017


As atheism is the disavowal of something, I guess the answer would be yes. There are atheist, such as Dennett, who are trying to define their beliefs without reference to religion, but, one, the disavowellers (?) came first and, two, they're really just trying to turn their disavowalling (meh, why not?) up to 11.

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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby Herald » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:54 am

Without the light, there is no shadow.

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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby Victorian Squid » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:36 pm

PDH wrote:
His science books are absolutely fantastic.

For those people who have a problem with Dawkins, forget the God Delusion, read the Selfish Gene.


100% agree! :smt038

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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby Regulator » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:47 pm

US Agent wrote:Just wondering.

I read there is going to be a Atheists Rally in DC coming up and it got me thinking.

If it wasn't for people who believe in God, would there be no people who didn't believe in God?

:smt017


I'm an atheist, but that's not my existence. Technically, if there had never been a single person who believed in God, then everyone would be atheist without knowing it.

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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:03 pm

outsider wrote:As a Christian myself, I find that the loudest Christian voices are usually the most douchey.

Play-At-Home version:
As a (belief goes here) myself, I find that the loudest (belief goes here) voices are usually the most douchey.


As a person who points out the hypocrisy of statements about one group that can easily be applied to a group with an opposite viewpoint, I find that the loudest person who points out the hypocrisy of statements about one geoup that can easily be applied to a group with an opposing viewpoint voices are usually the most douchey? :P

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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby DMM » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:54 pm

Herald wrote:Without the light, there is no shadow.

So you agree with Bender.
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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby Herald » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:56 pm

DMM wrote:So you agree with Bender.


Shadows can't do this to you: :smt075

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Re: Do Atheists owe their existence to those who believe in

Postby Zero » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:34 pm

If everyone stopped believing in God then nothing would change about my beliefs. My lack of belief in a higher power doesn't hinge on what you think.

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