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by **The Shadow** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:24 am

Holland Oats wrote:Madrox #1-5
X-Factor #1-32, 39-50, 204-232

All great.

The only blips are the Secret Invasion arc issues which were horrible, and The Invisible Woman Has Vanished which wasn't bad, but a slight dip..

All in all, about 10 bad, or lesser quality issues out of an 80+ issue run.

I liked the Invisible Woman arc.

by **Punchy** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:44 am

Personally I find X-Factor to be inconsistent, every time I get close to dropping it, it finally delivers an excellent issue. I still feel that the hight point was the Madrox baby issue (#39), everything since then has been somewhat of a let-down.

I did enjoy the recent Exiles-esque arc, and I'm excited to see what Havok and Polaris are like as team-members, but to say it's up there with the best comics in the medium is a bit much.

by **Chris** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:48 am

X-Factor is better than Watchmen.

by **Punchy** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:49 am

Holland Oats wrote:X-Factor is better than Watchmen.

Now you're just trolling.

by **The Shadow** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:21 pm

Punchy wrote:to say it's up there with the best comics in the medium is a bit much.

Give me some mainstream examples of team books that are better.

by **GHERU** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:42 pm

The Shadow wrote:Give me some mainstream examples of team books that are better.

Thunderbolts is up there, but Parker doesn't have nearly as long of a "its been a great book" run as PAD dfoes. He didn't really, IMO, come into his own on TB till after FI

X-Men Legacy might be a contender
never read it, but I heard good things about Batman Inc
would IDW's GI Joe: RAM count as mainstream?

by **chap22** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:51 pm

Avengers Academy is really really good.

by **DMM** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:56 pm

doombug wrote:The art wasn't good but the script was still there and strong.

This. I actually got used to the art after teh first issue with it.

by **doombug** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:43 pm

DMM wrote:This. I actually got used to the art after teh first issue with it.

I honestly did too. I mean it wasn't the best art ever but the characters were still fun to read and the story was still incredibly strong. mediocre art doesn't kill a book. Heck, Aaron's Ghost Rider run is proof of that.

by **outsider** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:46 pm

doombug wrote:I honestly did too. I mean it wasn't the best art ever but the characters were still fun to read and the story was still incredibly strong. mediocre art doesn't kill a book. Heck, Aaron's Ghost Rider run is proof of that.

You're being way too kind (but still correct)

by **doombug** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:46 pm

Punchy wrote:
Now you're just trolling.

Hate to say it but I'm with Chris on this one. Watchmen is nowhere close to Moore's best work and I'd easily recommend something like X-factor to people before I did Watchmen. :smt102

by **Nacmir** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:24 pm

doombug wrote:Hate to say it but I'm with Chris on this one. Watchmen is nowhere close to Moore's best work and I'd easily recommend something like X-factor to people before I did Watchmen.

X-Factor grows on the reader only if he is aware of the whole run, while Watchmen stands on its own, making it easy to get. But I understand the meaning of the post, in terms of which kind of stuff we recomend.

by **Chris** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:24 pm

Punchy wrote:
Now you're just trolling.

Don't be a Newton about it, Punchy. :smt011

by **GHERU** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:25 pm

doombug wrote:Hate to say it but I'm with Chris on this one. Watchmen is nowhere close to Moore's best work and I'd easily recommend something like X-factor to people before I did Watchmen.

meh
depending on if the person is a comic reader already
if not, I don't think I'd reccomend somethign so muddled by continuity that soon

by **Chris** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:26 pm

I don't recall anyone saying X-Factor was the best comic in the medium in this thread.

Best X-book? Yes.

But what Punchy said is another debate entirely, that wasn't really being had prior to him making that post.

Thus, my poking fun at the Watchmen thing.