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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby Grayson » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:32 am

Strict31 wrote:Even EDI seems poised to have a more active role, because they've given her a physical body. Dunno why unless she's a squaddie, because the entire idea of giving her a body seems ate-up-with-a-dumb-ass. I mean, there's no reason I can immediately see for it.


Probably to show an alternative evolution of an AI to the Geth. The Geth basically developed as slaves to the Quarians and when they began to show intelligence were feared. This led to the Quarians attempting to shut the Geth down, which led to all out war. EDI has evolved differently. She was installed as the ships AI and while met with initial reluctance, grew into a valued and respected member of the ships crew. Giving her a physical body shows the trust that the crew places in her. Plus I am sure that it has something to do with Joker. He gets...lonely.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby Strict31 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:35 am

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Probably to show an alternative evolution of an AI to the Geth. The Geth basically developed as slaves to the Quarians and when they began to show intelligence were feared. This led to the Quarians attempting to shut the Geth down, which led to all out war. EDI has evolved differently. She was installed as the ships AI and while met with initial reluctance, grew into a valued and respected member of the ships crew. Giving her a physical body shows the trust that the crew places in her. Plus I am sure that it has something to do with Joker. He gets...lonely.


Why on earth would that be even remotely a good idea? That serves no useful function. "Trust" don't pay the fuckin' bills it cost to build her an entire sexy-ass robot body. That's the realm of sentimentality, not purpose or function. It has to make sense, not serve some emotional dictates.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby Grayson » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:40 am

Strict31 wrote:Why on earth would that be even remotely a good idea? That serves no useful function. "Trust" don't pay the fuckin' bills it cost to build her an entire sexy-ass robot body. That's the realm of sentimentality, not purpose or function. It has to make sense, not serve some emotional dictates.


Well, like I said, it could have something to do with Joker. :smt102

Aside from that, its possible that Shepard has chosen to outfit the Normandy with a few "drone" bodies that EDI can inhabit. Perhaps in situations when it would be too dangerous for a living member of his crew but it also requires a more delicate touch than a mech can provide.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby Strict31 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:21 am

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Well, like I said, it could have something to do with Joker. :smt102

Aside from that, its possible that Shepard has chosen to outfit the Normandy with a few "drone" bodies that EDI can inhabit. Perhaps in situations when it would be too dangerous for a living member of his crew but it also requires a more delicate touch than a mech can provide.


Well, I guess it would have to be more dangerous than walking around inside of a dormant reaper while being attacked by Husks and Scions while in a decaying orbit around a red dwarf star.

Or more dangerous than hanging out on the surface of Tchanka with a bunch of Krogans who think that shooting a pissed off Thresher Maw with a pistol is a good way to spend a Saturday.

Or more dangerous than stumbling about blindly on worlds flooded with toxic gas while giant Harvesters shit out fire-breathing Klixen.

Maybe they'll send her on an away mission to a planet where the inhabitants say "hello" by spraying you with Herpes.

Shepard: "Hmm. Herpes-world. Looks like a job for EDI, guys."

EDI: "But Shepard, I..."

Shepard: "Don't worry, EDI. Your sexy robot body is immune to Herpes."

EDI: "Not to Space Herpes, Shepard..."

Shepard: "You get your frakkin' toaster ass in that shuttle, EDI."
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby Grayson » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:25 am

Strict31 wrote:Well, I guess it would have to be more dangerous than walking around inside of a dormant reaper while being attacked by Husks and Scions while in a decaying orbit around a red dwarf star.

Or more dangerous than hanging out on the surface of Tchanka with a bunch of Krogans who think that shooting a pissed off Thresher Maw with a pistol is a good way to spend a Saturday.

Or more dangerous than stumbling about blindly on worlds flooded with toxic gas while giant Harvesters shit out fire-breathing Klixen.

Maybe they'll send her on an away mission to a planet where the inhabitants say "hello" by spraying you with Herpes.

Shepard: "Hmm. Herpes-world. Looks like a job for EDI, guys."

EDI: "But Shepard, I..."

Shepard: "Don't worry, EDI. Your sexy robot body is immune to Herpes."

EDI: "Not to Space Herpes, Shepard..."

Shepard: "You get your frakkin' toaster ass in that shuttle, EDI."


Shepard is getting older...he can't be expected to throw himself at every situation that comes his way. Space herpes could really ruin his chances of getting intergalactic booty.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby Strict31 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:26 am

Sakie wrote:
Shepard is getting older...he can't be expected to throw himself at every situation that comes his way. Space herpes could really ruin his chances of getting intergalactic booty.


Well, Miranda and Liara are both probably immune to herpes in all its forms, so...
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby Grayson » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:29 am

Strict31 wrote:Well, Miranda and Liara are both probably immune to herpes in all its forms, so...


...yet another reason why Ashley has absolutely no chance with Shepard! :-D

She is probably full of herpes by now...living out in the fringes of Terminus space with all of those lonely colonists. Filthy... :smt011
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby Strict31 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:37 am

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...yet another reason why Ashley has absolutely no chance with Shepard! :-D

She is probably full of herpes by now...living out in the fringes of Terminus space with all of those lonely colonists. Filthy... :smt011


Actually, Ash just ended up with a case of the space-crabs. Mordin figured out some protection against that shit, but it was too late for Ashley.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby doombug » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:52 am

Wait, with some of the information you guys know...what's the time lapse between the two games?

And I'm still confused how the earth government has any control over Shepards actions either after or during Mass Effect 2. Sure he's looking out for humans and everyone else but as a soldier fighting in a war, he was declared dead at the beginning of 2, was he not?

So this rebuilt Normandy with EDI and the crew and everything is under his command. The Earth military can neither ground him for that last DLC or anything he does anymore, wouldn't he be under his own authority?

It's the only thing bothering me about the start of the 3rd game.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby Strict31 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:41 am

doombug wrote:Wait, with some of the information you guys know...what's the time lapse between the two games?

And I'm still confused how the earth government has any control over Shepards actions either after or during Mass Effect 2. Sure he's looking out for humans and everyone else but as a soldier fighting in a war, he was declared dead at the beginning of 2, was he not?

So this rebuilt Normandy with EDI and the crew and everything is under his command. The Earth military can neither ground him for that last DLC or anything he does anymore, wouldn't he be under his own authority?

It's the only thing bothering me about the start of the 3rd game.


Okay.

You know that it's possible to play the entire second game without losing your Spectre status. And despite being a council Spectre, Shepard has always been considered part of Alliance military. And if they declare Shepard dead, does it make more sense to act as if no military laws can touch him? Or to reverse their declaration of his death? They're not gonna say, "Oh shit...we were totally wrong about you being dead, huh? Oh well; guess we just can't prosecute for anything you may have done. See ya."

So, Shepard is still Alliance.

From the demo,
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Shepard is relieved of command and duty early in the game. The Normandy has been seized, examined and...not so much rebuilt as refitted. Presumably, they've gutted the computer systems and rebuilt them, to clear out any nasty code TIM may have had inserted. They gave her a new paint job and put her back into service as SR-2.

In the demo, Shepard only gets reinstated at Anderson's discretion,
after the shit has well and truly hit the fan.

The thing that doesn't sit well with me is retaining EDI. She's a Cerberus AI, and as such, it makes no kind of sense for the Alliance to take the chance that her systems could ever truly be scrubbed clean of hidden surprises. I certainly wouldn't want the AI controlling the life support systems to suddenly succumb to some hidden programming. Shit, if she can't be extracted from the control systems, I'd just as soon yank the tantalus core out and shove it into and entirely different ship. I mean, according to the novels, Normandy is no longer the only ship with such an engine core.

But, maybe Admiral Hackett figured that toaster's got a sexy voice. And maybe they figured, if they give her a sexy robot body, she'll look totally hot in a tight red skirt.

Or, to put it slightly more succinctly; IT'S MAGIC, BITCH.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby doombug » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:35 am

Something tells me Joker is the main reason for EDI still being basically "alive and well" so to speak.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby MrBlack » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:48 pm

I've really enjoyed the first two Mass Effect games, even if the last one was a bit dumbed down in terms of plot. After playing the exceedingly dumbed down demo (yes, I know there will be more dialogue options in the full release; that doesn't mean that the dialogue that was present wasn't idiotic Gears of War spacemarine bullshit) and seeing EA's attempt to nickel and dime more money out the consumer at the cost of the game's story, I'm out.

EA and Bioware can fuck off.

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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby Chris » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:07 pm

You'll be back. :smt011
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby MrBlack » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:26 pm

Holland Oats wrote:You'll be back. :smt011

Just like I came back to monthly comics.

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Re: Mass Effect 3 (potential spoilers)

Postby Benderbrau » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:27 pm

With completely new and creative games coming out all the time it seems silly to spend money on sequels.
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