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by **Starlord** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:05 am

Greg wrote:I thought JLA was taking place 5 years in the past before the other books?

I had heard that too but that makes little sense to me with Cyborg. And why do we have to go back five years anyway.

Man I hate that book (but beautiful art). Hawkman, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Flash, Teen Titans and Firestorm are all books that I think have suffered horribly with the reboot. Nearly all those titles are old Justice League members.

Coincidence? I say yes!

by **Greg** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:09 am

I don't get how it doesn't make sense due to Cyborg? :smt017

by **covalesky** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:10 am

Publish the trades already!

by **chap22** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:15 am

Starlord wrote:
I had heard that too but that makes little sense to me with Cyborg. And why do we have to go back five years anyway.

Man I hate that book (but beautiful art). Hawkman, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Flash, Teen Titans and Firestorm are all books that I think have suffered horribly with the reboot. Nearly all those titles are old Justice League members.

Coincidence? I say yes!

1. it IS 5 years in the past, similar to Action. Johns wanted to do an "origin" arc

2. agreed on all those books except Flash, which i think is very surprisingly fantastic

by **Starlord** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:24 am

Greg wrote:I don't get how it doesn't make sense due to Cyborg?

I didn't say that right. I was trying to rush it cause I had somebody at my desk. LOL!

I guess this means that Cyborg was no longer ever a member of the Teen Titans and everything that Wolfman and Perez created no longer happened. Why? Just so Victor could be a founding member of the JL?

Of course Greg, I am a 45 year old man who has seen the Justice League origin about six times now (at least). Origins where Wonder Woman was the original member then Black Canary, then Wonder Woman blah blah blah.

It might just be me getting tired of the same bull from DC. :smt102

by **Starlord** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:25 am

chap22 wrote:1. it IS 5 years in the past, similar to Action. Johns wanted to do an "origin" arc

2. agreed on all those books except Flash, which i think is very surprisingly fantastic

1. And that's why I can't stand Action Comics right now either. :-(

2. As big of a Wally fan as you are, I'm now considering getting the first trade of Flash after all. Perhaps I dropped it too soon.

by **MoneyMelon** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:32 am

"fantastic" is overselling The Flash right now.

It's a good book that surpassed low expectations.

by **Punchy** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:33 am

Justice League is set 5 years before all of the other books, Action Comics is 6 years before.

by **Starlord** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:39 am

Punchy wrote:Justice League is set 5 years before all of the other books, Action Comics is 6 years before.

And those are the two books to me that I was looking forward to the most and have totally dissappointed me.

by **chap22** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:45 am

MoneyMelon wrote:"fantastic" is overselling The Flash right now.

It's a good book that surpassed low expectations.

OK, let me correct a bit:

the art is absolutely fantastic. simply the best-looking comic i'm buying right now (since Martin is no longer on DD). and the writing is worlds better than i expected (although my expectations were nil going in)....good characterization, very fun look at Flash's powers, with inventive situations and uses of his super-speed, nice mix of action and soap opera.

it's a very good book.

by **Starlord** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:50 am

Son of a bitch!!! Thanks Chap! Once again I'm going to be sucked into another trade thanks to you. :smt013

by **Punchy** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:51 am

Starlord wrote:

And those are the two books to me that I was looking forward to the most and have totally dissappointed me.

Action is great, Justice League was OK for the first 4 issues, but #5 was really bad.

by **Zero** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:53 am

chap22 wrote:OK, let me correct a bit:

the art is absolutely fantastic. simply the best-looking comic i'm buying right now (since Martin is no longer on DD). and the writing is worlds better than i expected (although my expectations were nil going in)....good characterization, very fun look at Flash's powers, with inventive situations and uses of his super-speed, nice mix of action and soap opera.

it's a very good book.

I agree with all of this, the art and writing fit together perfectly in a way that you only really get with writing artists these days.

by **chap22** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:56 am

Punchy wrote:
Action is great, Justice League was OK for the first 4 issues, but #5 was really bad.

Action is garbage. utter and complete mediocrity. if Morrison's name wasn't on it, people would be ranting and raving about how shit it is.

by **Punchy** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:57 am

chap22 wrote:Action is garbage. utter and complete mediocrity. if Morrison's name wasn't on it, people would be ranting and raving about how shit it is.

They already are!

I like it. I'll admit the time-travel stuff in #5 and #6 was a little muddy, but overall it's been very enjoyable.