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by **Victorian Squid** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:03 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:You guys should do "The Duelists" sometime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Duellists

It's a fav of mine and I just rewatched it last night. So I'm curious to see how you all react to it.

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by **Nacmir** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:41 pm

Fucking loved it. Many thanks for such a good recomendation. It's like Bergman' The Seventh Seal in the west.
Awesome soundtrack and photography. Laughted half the movie. I will add it to my "movies to recomend" mental folder.

by **Victorian Squid** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:06 pm

Nacmir wrote:Fucking loved it. Many thanks for such a good recomendation. It's like Bergman' The Seventh Seal in the west.
Awesome soundtrack and photography. Laughted half the movie. I will add it to my "movies to recomend" mental folder.

You're welcome, glad you liked it. It's one of my favorite movies that I always think more people should see. The stunning B&W cinematography by Robby Muller makes it a true collaboration between him and director Jarmusch whose only film I don't recommend without reservation is Night on Earth (1991) and that is because it's the one film of his that feels dated to me and some of the segments are weak, particularly one with a young Winona Ryder.

by **Victorian Squid** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:06 pm

Also I was just kidding, Cat Scratch, The Duelists is awesome.

by **Eli Katz** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:25 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:
You're welcome, glad you liked it. It's one of my favorite movies that I always think more people should see. The stunning B&W cinematography by Robby Muller makes it a true collaboration between him and director Jarmusch whose only film I don't recommend without reservation is Night on Earth (1991) and that is because it's the one film of his that feels dated to me and some of the segments are weak, particularly one with a young Winona Ryder.

The Italian section, though, is so perfectly Italian that makes the rest of the film worth watching. Those 20 minutes better summarize and encapsulate Italian film than the best Fellini movies.

by **Victorian Squid** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:29 pm

Eli Katz wrote:
The Italian section, though, is so perfectly Italian that makes the rest of the film worth watching. Those 20 minutes better summarize and encapsulate Italian film than the best Fellini movies.

That's the best segment, for sure. And it's part of what makes the segment Ryder could not carry suffer by comparison in the same film. Difficulty for what is essentially an anthology or at least a series of true segments.

by **Eli Katz** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:31 pm

Also, Down by Law is my favorite movie of his. But I like all of them except his first one.

by **Eli Katz** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:32 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:
That's the best segment, for sure. And it's part of what makes the segment Ryder could not carry suffer by comparison in the same film. Difficulty for what is essentially an anthology or at least a series of true segments.

The Ryder segment is rather weak. And it's the opening segment, too, unfortunately.

by **Victorian Squid** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:38 pm

Eli Katz wrote:The Ryder segment is rather weak. And it's the opening segment, too, unfortunately.

The character she was playing is a bit far-fetched, and she didn't have the chops to pull it off. Like I said, I can't recommend Night On Earth without reservation. I would never want that film to be someone's introduction to Jim Jarmusch.

And you don't like Permanent Vacation or Stranger Than Paradise? You must mean Permanent Vacation, I presume.

Because if you don't like Stranger Than Paradise I will likely put you on ignore!

by **Eli Katz** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:47 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:
The character she was playing is a bit far-fetched, and she didn't have the chops to pull it off. Like I said, I can't recommend Night On Earth without reservation. I would never want that film to be someone's introduction to Jim Jarmusch.

And you don't like Permanent Vacation or Stranger Than Paradise? You must mean Permanent Vacation, I presume.

Because if you don't like Stranger Than Paradise I will likely put you on ignore!

I'm not a huge fan of Stranger than Paradise, to be honest. So perhaps you need to put me on super ignore. But I meant Permanent Vacation.

by **Victorian Squid** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:23 pm

Eli Katz wrote:I'm not a huge fan of Stranger than Paradise, to be honest.

by **Victorian Squid** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:08 pm

Nah, I get it, Eli. Permanent Midnight is a student film and it's what you might expect from a kid from Ohio studying film in NYC in the seventies, although you can see him starting to experiment with the narrative structure of his movie a little bit but it's a film only a film student could love.

Stranger Than Paradise, I'm a little surprised you don't like. but it's still got a lot of those same themes and it's full of stark, negative space. I'm not gonna lie, Tom Dicillo takes some nice shots but he's not the cinematographer that Robby Müller is. So there's that going for Down By Law and Dead Man and some of the other movies like Ghost Dog--all the very best Jarmusch films are collaborations with Müller, you can't understate what he brings to the final films. His shots are insanely good, I watch his movies are and over and there's never a bad shot.

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:02 pm

I wish the mods would add this to the "show movies" section

by **Cat-Scratch** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:13 pm

Fat Ollie Weeks wrote:
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by **Eli Katz** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:57 pm

Fat Ollie Weeks wrote:Nah, I get it, Eli. Permanent Midnight is a student film and it's what you might expect from a kid from Ohio studying film in NYC in the seventies, although you can see him starting to experiment with the narrative structure of his movie a little bit but it's a film only a film student could love.

Stranger Than Paradise, I'm a little surprised you don't like. but it's still got a lot of those same themes and it's full of stark, negative space. I'm not gonna lie, Tom Dicillo takes some nice shots but he's not the cinematographer that Robby Müller is. So there's that going for Down By Law and Dead Man and some of the other movies like Ghost Dog--all the very best Jarmusch films are collaborations with Müller, you can't understate what he brings to the final films. His shots are insanely good, I watch his movies are and over and there's never a bad shot.

I think if I had seen Stranger Than Paradise when it first came out, it would have made a bigger impression on me. Back in 1984, it must have been wildly out of place. But I discovered Jarmusch relatively late, with Night on Earth, and then promptly tracked down Mystery Train and Down by Law. Down by Law knocked my socks off--probably because it was such a weird crime movie. So by the time I got to Stranger Than Paradise, I already had sampled some of his best work and probably didn't give it a fair chance. It's been about 20 year since I've seen it, so maybe it would appeal to me more now than before.