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by **Jack Burton** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:39 am

Chesscub wrote:
It was a kid's movie in Bond clothing. Shuttles with laser beams have no place in James Bond movies.

Moore's Bond movies had a bad habit of getting caught in 70's film fads.

Moonraker was Star Wars

Man With the Golden Gun had a Kung Fu vibe

Live and Let Die was blaxplotation

by **Spidey-Man** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:42 am

Chesscub wrote:
It was a kid's movie in Bond clothing. Shuttles with laser beams have no place in James Bond movies.

Star Wars.

Interesting to note it did the best of the Moore Bond movies. (and 4th most attended of all)

and yet fans dont like it so much

and Die Another Day is considered weak by fans

and yet was Brosnan's best. (and 5th most attended of all Bond films).

by **Spidey-Man** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:44 am

by **Spidey-Man** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:46 am

also the last Bond movie said For Your Eyes Only would be next

but then Star Wars hit so they skipped FYEO and did Moonraker next.

by **Spidey-Man** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:48 am

chap22 wrote:you STFU!!!! Jaws, Drax, Dr. Goodhead ( )...Moonraker is awesome!!

Jaws was better in Spy Who Loved me as a villain

The Jaws character, played by Richard Kiel makes a return, although in Moonraker the role is played more for comedic effect than in The Spy Who Loved Me. Jaws was intended to be a villain against Bond to the bitter end, but director Lewis Gilbert stated on the DVD documentary that he received so much fan mail from small children saying "Why can't Jaws be a goodie not a baddie", that as a result he was persuaded to make Jaws gradually become Bond's ally at the end of the film

by **chap22** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:59 am

Spidey-Man wrote:
Jaws was better in Spy Who Loved me as a villain

oh, agreed, but i just love Richard Kiel. that guy's great in everything (Bond, Happy Gilmore, Silver Streak, Longest Yard, Cannonball Run II, the Monkees...)

by **Spidey-Man** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:01 pm

Roger Ebert Moonraker review. He's right, this is every plot :lol:

"Moonraker" is the 11th installment in the most successful film series in history. It is also, of course, in the grand Bond tradition. The basic form of the James Bond thrillers has been firmly established since the beginning; they're as predictable in style as the kabuki theater. The first shot of Bond must show him in a bizarre predicament that brings him within inches of his life. Surviving it, he must immediately be seen by a sexy girl.

Then … let's see. He's called in by "M," flirts briefly with Miss Moneypenny, is assigned to a case that takes him to exotic foreign locations, crosses tracks with another sex symbol who turns out to be working for a rival intelligence agency, is attacked by the villain's goons, is confronted by the villain himself (in the villain's incredibly elaborate hideaway), and learns of the villain's plan to achieve world mastery. (The villain's obligatory explanation of his plan for global domination led to the definition of The Talking Killer in my Little Movie Glossary.)

The closing sequence of every Bond picture is a set piece, using incredibly expensive special effects to create a vast global control center which is then destroyed. The last shot, of course, again shows Bond with a sexy girl (preferably the rival intelligence agent). Take this formula, plug in the specifics, and you have the new Bond movie. In this case, it's called "Moonraker," and it's so jammed with faraway places and science fiction special effects that Bond has to move at a trot just to make it into all the scenes.

by **chap22** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:02 pm

Spidey-Man wrote: and Die Another Day is considered weak by fans

and yet was Brosnan's best. (and 5th most attended of all Bond films).

more proof that sales figures have nothing to do with quality. DAD is easily the worst Bond movie i've ever seen and maybe the worst ever (i've never seen Dalton's second one, nor Quantum of Solace yet, so i can't say for sure, but i assume it's probabl worse than both of those as well). but plenty of people went to see it b/c it had Halle Berry in it in a bikini.

by **Lord Ice** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:02 pm

My fondness for Never Say Never Again stems from one thing, Barbara Carrera. :groucho:

Seriously, Bond defeats a guy by throwing his urine sample at him? :smt011

by **Spidey-Man** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:04 pm

I liked it. It was fun and it moved. Which is what i want from a Bond movie.

I found Solace....nonsensical. Halfway through i was like "oh this is not going to get any better and i dont care what happens." Solace is the only Bond movie I truly don't like

For some reason, i believe the only Bond movie i never did see was Dalton's second.

im not a huge Diamonds are Forver Fan. and A View to a Kill, which i loved as a kid when i saw it in the theater, is pretty creaky. Both of them, Bond is too old, and looks it imo.

by **chap22** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:06 pm

Lord Ice wrote:My fondness for Never Say Never Again stems from one thing, Barbara Carrera.
Seriously, Bond defeats a guy by throwing his urine sample at him?

young Basinger didn't hurt, either. :groucho:

by **chap22** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:08 pm

Spidey-Man wrote:I liked it. It was fun and it moved. Which is what i want from a Bond movie.

I found Solace....nonsensical. Halfway through i was like "oh this is not going to get any better and i dont care what happens." Solace is the only Bond movie I truly don't like

For some reason, i believe the only Bond movie i never did see was Dalton's second.

im not a huge Diamonds are Forver Fan. and A View to a Kill, which i loved as a kid when i saw it in the theater, is pretty creaky. Both of them, Bond is too old, and looks it imo.

my problem with View isn't that Bond is creaky (although he is), it's just that i will never for the life of me see why anyone ever thought Grace Jones was a good idea. for anything. other than her, i really like View (probably mostly for Walken...).

by **Spidey-Man** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:08 pm

oh yeah i never saw NEVER either.

by **chap22** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:10 pm

Spidey-Man wrote:I liked it. It was fun and it moved. Which is what i want from a Bond movie.

are you talking about Die Another Day? ugh...i found nothing "fun" about that one. even World is not Enough, as turrible and cheesy as it is (with the most nonsensiasl casting in the history of film...seriously, Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist? you'd have a better chance convincing me Betty White could play Tupac), is more fun than DAD

by **Spidey-Man** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:12 pm

yeah. I liked DAD. Great swordfight scene. Cool ice lair.

Denise never bothered me. All these hot models, most of whom could barely speak english, were cast in bond movies as spies, scientists, assistants, etc and they were only there for T&A. It's part of the charm.