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by **pastajoe** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:19 pm

Basil Smotherman Jr. wrote:
I am shocked that people thought he has done that much good. The guy has backed away from almost every important issue.

Really? Ask Osama bin Laden and the al Queda leadership. Oh, that's right you can't, because THEY'RE DEAD thanks to his aggressive policy to hunt them down, not diverting resources to Iraq. Iraq? Out of there. The debt was a result of bailing out the financial sector to prevent a depression, which I suppose you would rather have happened. Jobs? Ask the workers at GM and Chrysler and all the businesses that depend on them if they like having their jobs, or would have preferred bankruptcy like the Republicans wanted. Private sector job hiring has been increasing, the drag has been because of public section layoffs, WHICH IS WHAT REPUBLICANS WANT, SMALLER GOV'T. So stop being hypocrites. The Dow topped 13000 this week, two years ago it was in the 9000s.

So what's left for the right? In case of emergency break glass and pull out the old God, Guns, and Gays arguments. And through in an extra pinch of woman's contraceptives. Good luck with that argument in the general election.

by **achilles** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:29 pm

pastajoe wrote:
Really? Ask Osama bin Laden and the al Queda leadership. Oh, that's right you can't, because THEY'RE DEAD thanks to his aggressive policy to hunt them down, not diverting resources to Iraq. Iraq? Out of there. The debt was a result of bailing out the financial sector to prevent a depression, which I suppose you would rather have happened. Jobs? Ask the workers at GM and Chrysler and all the businesses that depend on them if they like having their jobs, or would have preferred bankruptcy like the Republicans wanted. Private sector job hiring has been increasing, the drag has been because of public section layoffs, WHICH IS WHAT REPUBLICANS WANT, SMALLER GOV'T. So stop being hypocrites. The Dow topped 13000 this week, two years ago it was in the 9000s.

So what's left for the right? In case of emergency break glass and pull out the old God, Guns, and Gays arguments. And through in an extra pinch of woman's contraceptives. Good luck with that argument in the general election.

Yes, he gets credit for FINALLY agreeing to pull the trigger on Bin Laden, though it reportedly took some convincing. Still, he did it, and that's what counts. Though I have yet to see the lefties give credit where it's do---namely the Bush ere intelligence pushes, including some that the Left, like Obama himself decried. Without which Obama never would have had the opportunity to pull the trigger on the Bin Laden mission.

As for the drone attacks, again, he just continued Bush era policy. Though give the guy some credit for doing more of them. OTOH, he gets downgraded for virtually every other military and intelligence decision he's made.

As for the economy, there's a reason why a book titled "Everything Obama Knows About the Economy" was blank, even though it was like 60 blank pages. To the extent that any recovery has occurred, it's more in spite of him than because of anything he's done. And he looks set to derail any slight recovery with his energy policy.

Which to recap, was to, and I'm paraphrasing him here since I can't recall his exact quote: "Necessarily skyrocket the price consumers pay for electricity" and drive clean goal electricity plants out of business. Also, as confirmed last week by his Energy Secretary, to drive up gas prices to "European levels". All to push his drive for the alternative energy sources that aren't technologically feasible or economically feasible without huge government subsidies, and in fact even with them.

Try running an economy without any energy.

Oh, and the price of Obama Care just skyrocketed another few hundred billion. But what the hell, we can just tax the "rich" more and make it up, right? Oh, wait, we can't, the numbers don't come close to doing that, even if you taxed his "rich" at a 100% rate.

And he makes Bush look like an avid defender of the Constitution and individual liberties.

by **The Juan Percenter** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:06 pm

pastajoe wrote:
Really? Ask Osama bin Laden and the al Queda leadership. Oh, that's right you can't, because THEY'RE DEAD thanks to his aggressive policy to hunt them down, not diverting resources to Iraq. Iraq? Out of there. The debt was a result of bailing out the financial sector to prevent a depression, which I suppose you would rather have happened. Jobs? Ask the workers at GM and Chrysler and all the businesses that depend on them if they like having their jobs, or would have preferred bankruptcy like the Republicans wanted. Private sector job hiring has been increasing, the drag has been because of public section layoffs, WHICH IS WHAT REPUBLICANS WANT, SMALLER GOV'T. So stop being hypocrites. The Dow topped 13000 this week, two years ago it was in the 9000s.

So what's left for the right? In case of emergency break glass and pull out the old God, Guns, and Gays arguments. And through in an extra pinch of woman's contraceptives. Good luck with that argument in the general election.

Bwahahaha! Obama's role in Bin laden was saying "OK"

Chrysler isn't even an American company anymore! GM would have still emerged from bankruptcy even w/o a bailout from the taxpayers. Then Obama broke the law by giving unions equity over GM's creditors. And despite taxpayer cash, GM still can't payoff the loan.

Dow at 13000? Big deal, despite running up record deficits, more than Washington to Clinton combined, real unemployment is still over 10%!! Only you Obamabots fap at that 8.3% number that was calculated by shrinking the denominator!!!

Hypocrit? No, just correct.

by **The Juan Percenter** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:10 pm

And I am sure that combat veterans who Obama told to sacrifice their health benefits so that a bunch of HS educated govt file clerks can keep their overpriced plans think that Obama is a real swell guy. So when you people continue to feed of the taxpayer trough, thank a veteren.

by **Rockman** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:37 pm

How many billions of dollars did the stimulus lend to green companies that have now gone bankrupt?

by **Cat-Scratch** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:42 pm

by **GOSD** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:50 pm

Rockman wrote:How many billions of dollars did the stimulus lend to green companies that have now gone bankrupt?

pastajoe: *crickets*

by **avengingtitan** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:30 pm

Rockman wrote:How many billions of dollars did the stimulus lend to green companies that have now gone bankrupt?

But all the automotive companies have paid back all the money they were lent, and I think most of the banks have as well. You win some you lose some.

by **The Juan Percenter** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:35 pm

avengingtitan wrote:But all the automotive companies have paid back all the money they were lent, and I think most of the banks have as well. You win some you lose some.

Wrong. Neither of them have.

by **ReturnoftheMack** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:45 pm

Rockman wrote:How many billions of dollars did the stimulus lend to green companies that have now gone bankrupt?

I don't think the ones that went bankrupt reached $1 billion.

Solyndra was $535 million.

by **MoneyMelon** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:48 pm

I'm glad the Republican candidates have a plan to get this country back on its feet, evidenced by their extreme focus on contraceptives.

by **avengingtitan** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:04 am

MoneyMelon wrote:I'm glad the Republican candidates have a plan to get this country back on its feet, evidenced by their extreme focus on contraceptives.

Which shouldnt matter. I'm sorry but we all know that birth control, abortion, gay marriage, etc are things that they will scream about but never do anything about once in office because its career suicide. I dont care what religion someone is, what they think about social issues, etc but their plans for the economy, military strategy, foreign policy, etc is what matters.

by **MoneyMelon** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:31 am

avengingtitan wrote:Which shouldnt matter. I'm sorry but we all know that birth control, abortion, gay marriage, etc are things that they will scream about but never do anything about once in office because its career suicide. I dont care what religion someone is, what they think about social issues, etc but their plans for the economy, military strategy, foreign policy, etc is what matters.

Nah, as soon as women can't get the pill, we are on easy street. That's why the Republicans are making it a big issue. Forget unemployment, the energy crisis, national debt, etc. It's birth control. That's what we need to worry about.

by **Rockman** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:21 am

The President wrote:
I don't think the ones that went bankrupt reached $1 billion.

Solyndra was $535 million.

multiple companies have filed for bankruptcy, and the sum total of those loans exceeds 1 billion dollars at least.

by **Rockman** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:22 am

avengingtitan wrote:Which shouldnt matter. I'm sorry but we all know that birth control, abortion, gay marriage, etc are things that they will scream about but never do anything about once in office because its career suicide. I dont care what religion someone is, what they think about social issues, etc but their plans for the economy, military strategy, foreign policy, etc is what matters.

Actually Bush did sign into a law something concerning late term abortions, so yes it is a big issue still.

And the contraceptive thing is about the government being involved in it, which it shouldn't. It shouldn't be able to tell catholic anything they need to buy it, and it shouldn't be in the business of getting for people either.