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Re: Stop Kony

Postby guitarsmashley » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:12 am

It's the story of Unknown Soldier.
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Re: Stop Kony

Postby Apache Chef » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:16 am

Why is it that because of the last couple of days and this video exploding on the internet, I'm almost wanting to side with a terrible dictator just to upset the people that are suddenly activists because of this video.

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Re: Stop Kony

Postby US Agent » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:17 am

The President wrote:


Essentially, he kidnaps kids, makes the girls sex slaves and makes the boys join his army. He also gets them to kill their parents.


If I was making a video I would have led with that.

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Re: Stop Kony

Postby dairydead » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:56 am

Its an interesting situation. On one hand IC does support the Ugandan army, which is terrible, and might handle this situation poorly. On the other hand, they are very transparent about what they are doing in that respect and are essentially an advocacy group. If you're okay with an advocacy group that means well but may support violence(which they were clear about in the video) , then IC is for you.

What I don't like is the implication of some of these blogs that white people shouldn't be doing charity work at all.

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Re: Stop Kony

Postby Schlemmer » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:18 pm

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Re: Stop Kony

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Re: Stop Kony

Postby Doozer » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:30 pm

This whole thing reeks of military and colonial adventurism.

The way these guys are going about it, it's pretty clear that they see themselves as the Great White Hope solution in search of a problem, and have found one that has already moved well beyond where they're directing their efforts.

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Re: Stop Kony

Postby dairydead » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:54 pm

Doozer wrote:This whole thing reeks of military and colonial adventurism.

The way these guys are going about it, it's pretty clear that they see themselves as the Great White Hope solution in search of a problem, and have found one that has already moved well beyond where they're directing their efforts.


i totally see what youre saying, but how do they avoid looking like that?
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Re: Stop Kony

Postby Doozer » Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:19 pm

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i totally see what youre saying, but how do they avoid looking like that?


Not distorting the facts, not trying to ramp up crowd-sourced military intervention, not posing with guns, ammo and military officials to look BADACE!...

Basically, there are a whole lot of "nots" they could be doing to avoid looking like privileged 19th century European colonialists out looking for the next great African problem.

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Re: Stop Kony

Postby Doozer » Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:26 pm

These guys are in it for the glory of being a great white hope. if they really wanted to help Ugandan citizens and the victims of Kony's actions, there's plenty of help needed:

Award-winning Ugandan journalist Angelo Izama is among those not thrilled:

"To call the campaign a misrepresentation is an understatement. While it draws attention to the fact that Kony, indicted for war crimes by the International Criminal Court in 2005, is still on the loose, its portrayal of his alleged crimes in Northern Uganda are from a bygone era. At the height of the war between especially 1999 and 2004, large hordes of children took refuge on the streets of Gulu town to escape the horrors of abduction and brutal conscription to the ranks of the LRA. Today most of these children are semi-adults. Many are still on the streets unemployed. Gulu has the highest numbers of child prostitutes in Uganda. It also has one of the highest rates of HIV/AIDS and Hepatitis.

If six years ago children in Uganda would have feared the hell of being part of the LRA, a well documented reality already, today the real invisible children are those suffering from "Nodding Disease". Over 4000 children are victims of this incurable debilitating condition. It's a neurological disease that has baffled world scientists and attacks mainly children from the most war affected districts of Kitgum, Pader and Gulu."


http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/07/guest_post_joseph_kony_is_not_in_uganda_and_other_complicated_things

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Re: Stop Kony

Postby Timbales » Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:33 pm

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Re: Stop Kony

Postby Nacmir » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:03 pm

I found it weird that US only supports the ICC when noise is made.
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Re: Stop Kony

Postby Victorian Squid » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:09 pm

Nacmir wrote:I found it weird that US only supports the ICC when noise is made.


ICC can stand for several things. Do you mean the International Criminal Court? And if so, didn't you say you were from Chile, one of the few South American countries that has refused to ratify the ICC’s founding treaty and in fact the only country or state in South America to not be States Parties to the Court?

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Re: Stop Kony

Postby dairydead » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:20 pm

Doozer wrote:These guys are in it for the glory of being a great white hope. if they really wanted to help Ugandan citizens and the victims of Kony's actions, there's plenty of help needed:



http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/07/guest_post_joseph_kony_is_not_in_uganda_and_other_complicated_things

They're just a bunch of thrill seeking, self-aggrandizing, spoiled adventure tourists who have used donations to fund their adventures.


stop using this "great white hope" bullshit.
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Re: Stop Kony

Postby ZombieRed » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:24 pm

dairydead wrote:
i totally see what youre saying, but how do they avoid looking like that?


Same way a lot of reputable charities avoid looking like that.

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