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by **Nacmir** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:34 pm

Strict31 wrote:
The Predators have always been an alien race, though. Not sure what your point is, or why this should spark butthurt.

I tried to contrast Predator 1 against the rest of them, I presumed people liked the "what the hell is that" angle from the first one, specialy given the bunch of them abusing of the "alien race" ideas, as Alien vs Predator. Not only from the origin-point of view but more from the themes often used within "alien race"

by **Royal Nonesuch** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:58 pm

This is actually the first I'm hearing that Michael Bay is in charge of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film franchise.

by **Zechs** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:19 pm

Nacmir wrote:Them being from a alien race could be fun. I mean, Predators gained a lot being a race more than a stealth thing that kills

Butthurt in 3...2...1...

Yeah um Predators always were other worldly aliens dude.

by **Greg** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:27 pm

HNutz wrote:
I was actually impressed that they kept Shredder dead and tried something new.

For real. I love Shredder, but there are other enemies!

by **Strict31** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:31 pm

Nacmir wrote:
I tried to contrast Predator 1 against the rest of them, I presumed people liked the "what the hell is that" angle from the first one, specialy given the bunch of them abusing of the "alien race" ideas, as Alien vs Predator. Not only from the origin-point of view but more from the themes often used within "alien race"

But no one's ever retconned the origin of the Predators from being mutants to aliens. They were always aliens. It was established right in the opening scenes of the first movie that the Predator was an alien. And that has never changed from movie to movie, not even to suit the whims of some hack-ass director.

I just don't see how the comparison fits.

by **Zechs** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:38 pm

Greg wrote:
For real. I love Shredder, but there are other enemies!

Tengu Shredder
Cyber Shredder
Lady Shredder
Triceraton Shredder

:-D

Oh wait. You mean Baxter Stockman, Krang, Bishop, Hun, Karai, Leatherhead, and Rat King.

by **Benderbrau** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:42 am

Ninja Turtles Star Writes To Bay Over Remake Plans

One of the stars of the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles franchise has written an angry letter to director Michael Bay over his plans to remake the films.

The Transformers helmer is planning to bring back the characters for a new live action movie, but actor Robbie Rist, who played Michaelangelo in the 1990s films, is not happy with Bay's idea to recreate the turtles as "alien" life form instead of radioactive mutants.

Rist has written an open letter to Bay and posted the note on his Facebook.com page.

He writes, "You probably don't know me but I did some voice work on the first set of movies that you are starting to talk about sodomising.

"Look man, I think you have some pretty nifty action ideas... but seriously, Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles?

"I know believing in mutated talking turtles is kinda silly to begin with but am I supposed to be led to believe there are ninjas from another planet?... Oh what the hell am I talking to you for? The rape of our childhood memories continues..." »

by **Herald** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:57 am

Ninja Turtles Star Writes To Bay Over Remake Plans

One of the stars of the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles franchise has written an angry letter to director Michael Bay over his plans to remake the films.

The Transformers helmer is planning to bring back the characters for a new live action movie, but actor Robbie Rist, who played Michaelangelo in the 1990s films, is not happy with Bay's idea to recreate the turtles as "alien" life form instead of radioactive mutants.

Rist has written an open letter to Bay and posted the note on his Facebook.com page.

He writes, "You probably don't know me but I did some voice work on the first set of movies that you are starting to talk about sodomising.

"Look man, I think you have some pretty nifty action ideas... but seriously, Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles?

"I know believing in mutated talking turtles is kinda silly to begin with but am I supposed to be led to believe there are ninjas from another planet?... Oh what the hell am I talking to you for? The rape of our childhood memories continues..." »

With or without his voice attached to a giant turtle costume, this man is my hero.

by **Rockman** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:48 am

Is he directing this or producing it?

It will be sad if this is a movie you can't take kids to like the transformers films.

by **draco x** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:26 pm

Zechs wrote:

The only reason they did that was to get around to more violence and make this Shredder more genocidal.[/quote

So they decided to make the 2002 Shredder into another Krang basically which was so dumb. The problem with making Shredder a psycho badass and then revealing him to be a 1 foot alien blob is that it cheapened the character. At least when they had the Demon Shredder who was a much bigger threat than the Utrom Shredder, him you could take seriously.
With the Demon Shredder you had a badass human ninja warrior with the powers of a god that was scary as hell. With the Utrom Shredder, all you had to do was step on him and that would be the end of his story.

by **draco x** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:28 pm

HNutz wrote:
I was actually impressed that they kept Shredder dead and tried something new.

I hear what you're saying but the problem was that the villains they had after Shredder sucked. The only other good villains they have ever had in TMNT was Agent Bishop who would have been a much better character in the 2007 movie.

by **Zechs** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:33 pm

Benderbrau wrote:[

The man is a hero.

by **Rockman** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:39 pm

That show ran for several seasons after the the reveal of utrom shredder. I didn't like it either, but it worked out well for that show.

by **draco x** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:49 pm

Rockman wrote:That show ran for several seasons after the the reveal of utrom shredder. I didn't like it either, but it worked out well for that show.

I am aware of that and I wasn't knocking the show by chance as I still watched it after that idiotic idea made it to print. I was just expressing how dumb that whole idea was in the first place-the irony was that I liked the 2002 Shredder as he was badass and scary as hell as opposed to the 80's toon Shredder who was mostly comic relief. However they ruined that by turning him into another Krang which didn't fit in well with the concept. However, the cartoon redeemed himself when they had the Tengu Shredder who was the best Shredder in my opinion.

by **Zechs** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:09 pm

draco x wrote:
I am aware of that and I wasn't knocking the show by chance as I still watched it after that idiotic idea made it to print. I was just expressing how dumb that whole idea was in the first place-the irony was that I liked the 2002 Shredder as he was badass and scary as hell as opposed to the 80's toon Shredder who was mostly comic relief. However they ruined that by turning him into another Krang which didn't fit in well with the concept. However, the cartoon redeemed himself when they had the Tengu Shredder who was the best Shredder in my opinion.

Honestly, I enjoyed the Utrom Shredder more in execution. He was the worst Shredder of them all so far created. He was a genocidal monster who only loved destruction and cared not even if it killed himself. Plus if it wasn't for the Utrom Shredder we would never have had him decapitated on a Sat. morning cartoon show.