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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby KingPagla » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:16 pm

Chubbles wrote:I read the first book and he's never really in any trouble in that too...it's almost like he's a superhero in a world full of regular people

Well the lesser gravity = super strength and leaping tall buildings did inspire Siegel and Shuster.
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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby Doc Jon » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:46 pm

Chubbles wrote:I read the first book and he's never really in any trouble in that too...it's almost like he's a superhero in a world full of regular people


The movie does a good job of creating a credible threat, and there is an attempt to make the final battle seem hopeless, but it just doesn't come across.
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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby avengingtitan » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:49 pm

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It had fantastic visual effects.

An okay story which Cameron dragged out for 2.5 hours and a horrible ending.

This is exactly what I said when it came out.

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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby avengingtitan » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:50 pm

I'll go see this sometime this week.

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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby Chubbles » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:04 pm

Doc Jon wrote:
The movie does a good job of creating a credible threat, and there is an attempt to make the final battle seem hopeless, but it just doesn't come across.


Book was the same, the bad guys had endings which were one sentence finishers. Like they build up this bad guy and two sentences into the confrontation it's like, 'So i killed him'...i was like, really?

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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby Rockman » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:04 pm

http://movies.msn.com/paralleluniverse/ ... ons/story/

it's going to lose 200 million.

I wonder what this means for Stanton and Kitsch?

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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby Chris » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:08 pm

Rockman wrote:http://movies.msn.com/paralleluniverse/john-carter-to-lose-millions/story/

it's going to lose 200 million.

I wonder what this means for Stanton and Kitsch?


Kitsch never struck me as a leading man anyway.. this and Battleship should sink him right away.

Stanton always has a future with Pixar, IMO.. but it's going to be a tough sell giving him another massive property, and so much power, again.
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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby MrBlack » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:24 pm

I've got some time on my hands this weekend, so I'll probably check it out.

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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby Log-Man » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:28 pm

Holland Oats wrote:
Kitsch never struck me as a leading man anyway.. this and Battleship should sink him right away.

Stanton always has a future with Pixar, IMO.. but it's going to be a tough sell giving him another massive property, and so much power, again.


That's too bad, because he did a solid job here. Just saw it Sunday and loved it. If any execs actually watch it and judge it as a movie, then his reputation should stay intact. If they only look at the budget sheets, he'll be in trouble. But then, a ton of directors keep going after busting budgets or creating bombs.

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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby KingPagla » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:51 pm

Rockman wrote:http://movies.msn.com/paralleluniverse/john-carter-to-lose-millions/story/

it's going to lose 200 million.

I wonder what this means for Stanton and Kitsch?

They'll be fine. People in the position to hire them will judge them on their work and realize were the problems with the B.O. returns lay.
Good product, poorly sold.
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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby eltopo » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:14 pm

Rockman wrote:http://movies.msn.com/paralleluniverse/john-carter-to-lose-millions/story/

it's going to lose 200 million.

I wonder what this means for Stanton and Kitsch?

ouch
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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby Cernunnos » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:07 pm

Damn shame. :-(
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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby Doc Jon » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:46 pm

Log-Man wrote:
That's too bad, because he did a solid job here. Just saw it Sunday and loved it. If any execs actually watch it and judge it as a movie, then his reputation should stay intact. If they only look at the budget sheets, he'll be in trouble. But then, a ton of directors keep going after busting budgets or creating bombs.


Not many films lose 200 million...
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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby KingPagla » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:02 pm

I think Disney may be exaggerating the loss a bit. They're definitely putting it out there quick to put the stock dip behind them as soon and as quickly as possible.
This way the dust will have cleared in time for a rise from The Avengers.
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Re: John Carter was good.

Postby Doc Jon » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:06 pm

KingPagla wrote:I think Disney may be exaggerating the loss a bit. They're definitely putting it out there quick to put the stock dip behind them as soon and as quickly as possible.
This way the dust will have cleared in time for a rise from The Avengers.


I hope so, because it's a shame. Sadly, I think the budget was too much for an unproven concept, but the same could be said for Avatar.

It was a good movie and it's too bad it didn't find an audience.
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