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by **PREVIEWtron** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:01 am

Courtesy of Marvel Comics, here's an advance preview of MOON KNIGHT #11, in stores on 03/28/2012!

MOON KNIGHT #11
Brian Michael Bendis (W) • Alex Maleev (A/C)
• Moon Knight Has Fallen Into The Abyss Of His Multiple Personalities!
• What Force On Earth Can Bring Him Back From The Brink? Enter: The Avengers!
• The Legendary Team Of Bendis And Maleev Bring You This Pinnacle Moment In The Life Of Marc Spector!
32 Pgs./Rated T+ ...$3.99

http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/newspreviews/127/18749.html/

by **Gladiator X** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:42 pm

As much as I can't stand Bendis, I have to say that I am sad to see this ending next month. I was really starting to get into the book and was actually looking forward to seeing how this would have played out. Hopefully the ending won't be horribly rushed and we get a decent ending to the arc.

by **Marius665** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:51 pm

they better bring back ECHO!!!

by **Max Blyss** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:39 pm

As a Moony fan, I hated this book. Read it 'til issue 5, and dropped it like a bad habit. Hopefully Bendis never darkens the doorstep of Moon Knight again.

by **Gladiator X** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:02 pm

Max Blyss wrote:As a Moony fan, I hated this book. Read it 'til issue 5, and dropped it like a bad habit. Hopefully Bendis never darkens the doorstep of Moon Knight again.

I can dig it. I was not happy with the change to MK's personality (and still am not really a fan of it) and I really haven't liked Maleev's art either. My....disdain...for Bendis is well documented so understand where you're coming from.
Anyway, around issue 8 or 9 it started to pick up some steam and I could see that the whole Captain Spiderine thing probably was going to go away fairly soon so I stuck with it. I have every appearance of MK and have collected him since he first showed up in Werewolf by Night so continuing to drop a few bucks a month to maintain my collection as well as supporting the book, wasn't a big deal too. I'd rather have a MK book I didn't completely enjoy than to not have one at all but unfortunately, enough fans did the same as you.
Not blaming anyone. I don't want anybody to buy a comic they don't enjoy. I just wish sales would have held up long enough for another creative team to come in.
May the next phase in Moon Knight's career be better received.

by **Max Blyss** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:21 pm

Rikk Odinson wrote:
I can dig it. I was not happy with the change to MK's personality (and still am not really a fan of it) and I really haven't liked Maleev's art either. My....disdain...for Bendis is well documented so understand where you're coming from.
Anyway, around issue 8 or 9 it started to pick up some steam and I could see that the whole Captain Spiderine thing probably was going to go away fairly soon so I stuck with it. I have every appearance of MK and have collected him since he first showed up in Werewolf by Night so continuing to drop a few bucks a month to maintain my collection as well as supporting the book, wasn't a big deal too. I'd rather have a MK book I didn't completely enjoy than to not have one at all but unfortunately, enough fans did the same as you.
Not blaming anyone. I don't want anybody to buy a comic they don't enjoy. I just wish sales would have held up long enough for another creative team to come in.
May the next phase in Moon Knight's career be better received.

Aside from my own devout Bendis hatred, and the changes to Moony's persona, the thing that made me REALLY not like the book was the feeling I got that Moony was being treated like a total joke in his own book. In contrast, I really liked the way the Huston arcs made it clear that while Moony is a b-lister, he's so strange, crazy, and dangerous that everybody stays a few steps back... Like that guy at the party who will just hit someone out of nowhere...

I like Maleev alright, and his look suits a Moony book, just not this one. I'll quarter bin this garbage in a year or so, and bundle it up with Fist of Khonshu in a new 'MK Facepalm' section, lol.

by **Max Blyss** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:23 pm

Oh, and Marvel and DC can always be relied upon to relaunch Moon Knight and The Demon respectively... So you don't have to worry.

by **Stephen Day** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:08 pm

Max Blyss wrote:
Aside from my own devout Bendis hatred, and the changes to Moony's persona, the thing that made me REALLY not like the book was the feeling I got that Moony was being treated like a total joke in his own book. In contrast, I really liked the way the Huston arcs made it clear that while Moony is a b-lister, he's so strange, crazy, and dangerous that everybody stays a few steps back... Like that guy at the party who will just hit someone out of nowhere...

I like Maleev alright, and his look suits a Moony book, just not this one. I'll quarter bin this garbage in a year or so, and bundle it up with Fist of Khonshu in a new 'MK Facepalm' section, lol.

I didn't like the Huston volume for those very reasons. Yes Moon Knight is crazy, and that's part of what makes him a good character, but before that series, he was always an in control type of crazy. To my mind Huston's version was an even worse mischaracterization than Bendis' version.

by **Max Blyss** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:17 am

Stephen Day wrote:
I didn't like the Huston volume for those very reasons. Yes Moon Knight is crazy, and that's part of what makes him a good character, but before that series, he was always an in control type of crazy. To my mind Huston's version was an even worse mischaracterization than Bendis' version.

I took it as more of an 'advancement' in his insanity, where instead of being an outside force, Spector was actually incorporating Khonshu into his personae, or if you favor this, Khonshu was pushing his way in. Either way, I loved the run.

(...And Finch made the book totally smoke, BTW!)

by **Stephen Day** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:06 am

Max Blyss wrote:
I took it as more of an 'advancement' in his insanity, where instead of being an outside force, Spector was actually incorporating Khonshu into his personae, or if you favor this, Khonshu was pushing his way in. Either way, I loved the run.

(...And Finch made the book totally smoke, BTW!)

The first is an OK explanation I guess, but Spectre's personalities were always a separate type of thing. The big problem is that split personality disorder is something that actually exists and it's well known how a person's separate personalities work together inside the disorder. Personalities simply don't work like that with the person's main persona. Since I know that, it's not something I can swallow.

The second one I can accept, but it makes me dislike the characterization even more. I hated the period during West Coast Avengers when Khonshu took over Moon Knight's body. It's not something new and it's a direction I've always felt the character shouldn't go in. Khonshu and Spectre should always be separate beings. :smt011

by **Max Blyss** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:54 pm

Stephen Day wrote:
The first is an OK explanation I guess, but Spectre's personalities were always a separate type of thing. The big problem is that split personality disorder is something that actually exists and it's well known how a person's separate personalities work together inside the disorder. Personalities simply don't work like that with the person's main persona. Since I know that, it's not something I can swallow.

The second one I can accept, but it makes me dislike the characterization even more. I hated the period during West Coast Avengers when Khonshu took over Moon Knight's body. It's not something new and it's a direction I've always felt the character shouldn't go in. Khonshu and Spectre should always be separate beings.

Not trying to refute your impression, it's a good one... But isn't it funny how all of us comic fans will, at one time or another, become disenfranchised with a title or character that is already extremely far-fetched because of one small real world dynamics issue? I had the same problem with Wolvie's de-evolution in the 90's (V.2, Iss. 100 I think) as you had with Moony's MPD... I was all like 'A body can't eject cooled, hardened metal explosively!!! WTF!? What's with the three - second growth of an underbite!?' All the while getting mad because the story about a stubby, half - animal guy with a healing powers and METAL BLADES coming out of his hands had lost its realism, lol.

Just something I've noticed. I wonder if there's a name for this phenomena...

by **Stephen Day** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:29 pm

Max Blyss wrote:
Not trying to refute your impression, it's a good one... But isn't it funny how all of us comic fans will, at one time or another, become disenfranchised with a title or character that is already extremely far-fetched because of one small real world dynamics issue? I had the same problem with Wolvie's de-evolution in the 90's (V.2, Iss. 100 I think) as you had with Moony's MPD... I was all like 'A body can't eject cooled, hardened metal explosively!!! WTF!? What's with the three - second growth of an underbite!?' All the while getting mad because the story about a stubby, half - animal guy with a healing powers and METAL BLADES coming out of his hands had lost its realism, lol.

Just something I've noticed. I wonder if there's a name for this phenomena...

Suspension of disbelief can be a delicate thing. The key thing is to be consistent within the fictional narrative. It's when a writer steps out of that consistency that problems occur.