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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby avengingtitan » Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:30 pm

habitual wrote:
If you were a super hero being wrong would be your super power.

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Well you know the british have horrible senses of humor. But yea thats very true.

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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby alaska1125 » Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:48 pm

avengingtitan wrote:Well you know the british have horrible senses of humor. But yea thats very true.


Well I suppose Americans who live outside the contiguous 48 states must also have a horrible sense of humor too, because that wasn't funny. At all, really.

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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby fieldy snuts » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:27 pm

That gutters cartoon was mildly amusing and then downright sucked as soon as it got to herp, derp lerp. Their stuff is really hit or miss and this was a massive miss.

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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby Thor-El » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:36 pm

So yeah I finally got around to reading this issue today.

I really enjoyed the part about the Justice League, I thought it was really done well. I like the artwork on the Shazam part and I honestly don't have a problem with the name change, but making Billy Batson into a little douchebag, yeah that was just bad.
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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby habitual » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:51 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:That gutters cartoon was mildly amusing and then downright sucked as soon as it got to herp, derp lerp. Their stuff is really hit or miss and this was a massive miss.


The last panel saved it imo.

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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby Punchy » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:30 am

I actually quite enjoyed the back-up. Johns and Frank make a really great team, and I really liked the fake-out where you’re led to believe that Billy Batson is some kind of perfect little kid, when he’s actually a much more realistic character. I know some people want Captain Marvel to be all whimsy, all the time, but I think this take works, it looks like becoming Shazam will be what teaches Billy to be good. In fact, the only problem I have with it is the name-change, which is out of DC’s hands in a lot of ways, but other than that, this was a fine start to me.

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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby IvCNuB4 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:22 am

Ntikrst wrote:I'd like to round up everyone who buys Action Comics and put them in an oven for supporting that fucking hack.


I was starting to agree with most of what you said, but as as an Action Comics reader I find this comment a tad harsh :lol:
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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby Ntikrst » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:38 pm

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I was starting to agree with most of what you said, but as as an Action Comics reader I find this comment a tad harsh :lol:


Ya it is a bit over the top. I was just trying to show people that I understand why they don't like Shazam, I feel the same about Superman-Nu. Of course I was metaphorically speaking, it's not like I seriously want to make ashtrays out of people's teeth or anything. :wink:
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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby Ntikrst » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:44 pm

Punchy wrote:I actually quite enjoyed the back-up. Johns and Frank make a really great team, and I really liked the fake-out where you’re led to believe that Billy Batson is some kind of perfect little kid, when he’s actually a much more realistic character. I know some people want Captain Marvel to be all whimsy, all the time, but I think this take works, it looks like becoming Shazam will be what teaches Billy to be good. In fact, the only problem I have with it is the name-change, which is out of DC’s hands in a lot of ways, but other than that, this was a fine start to me.


I don't even think Billy is that bad. Sure he jumped to conclusions and assumed those people were idiots, but he makes podcasts commenting on the foster care system he obviously hates being subjected too. He strikes me as a crusader, a whistleblower who is trying to expose unsavory practices through his podcasts.

I love the podcast angle, nobody is going to listen to a kid on the radio, but kids on social media makes perfect sense.
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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby avengingtitan » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:31 pm

Punchy wrote:I actually quite enjoyed the back-up. Johns and Frank make a really great team, and I really liked the fake-out where you’re led to believe that Billy Batson is some kind of perfect little kid, when he’s actually a much more realistic character. I know some people want Captain Marvel to be all whimsy, all the time, but I think this take works, it looks like becoming Shazam will be what teaches Billy to be good. In fact, the only problem I have with it is the name-change, which is out of DC’s hands in a lot of ways, but other than that, this was a fine start to me.

This is just confirmation that this whole thing was a bad idea and story.

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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby habitual » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:45 pm

Punchy wrote:I actually quite enjoyed the back-up. Johns and Frank make a really great team, and I really liked the fake-out where you’re led to believe that Billy Batson is some kind of perfect little kid, when he’s actually a much more realistic character. I know some people want Captain Marvel to be all whimsy, all the time, but I think this take works, it looks like becoming Shazam will be what teaches Billy to be good. In fact, the only problem I have with it is the name-change, which is out of DC’s hands in a lot of ways, but other than that, this was a fine start to me.


It just demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of what makes Captain Marvel AND Billy Batson different from the likes of Superman and the rest of the DCU.

Billy was always the real hero and always played a larger role in the stories than either Clark Kent or Bruce Wayne. Even Ordway, whom I never thought was that great understood this, and Johns does not.

In three years this will not be in continuity, just like with Trials.

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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby fieldy snuts » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:48 pm

Ordway's run, while it had abysmal lows, knocked it out of the park when he hit the right notes.

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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby Dragavon » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:14 pm

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Ya it is a bit over the top. I was just trying to show people that I understand why they don't like Shazam, I feel the same about Superman-Nu. Of course I was metaphorically speaking, it's not like I seriously want to make ashtrays out of people's teeth or anything. :wink:

For someone who always found Superman boring (except when he was dying), Action is a something new and different.
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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby avengingtitan » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:25 pm

Dragavon wrote:For someone who always found Superman boring (except when he was dying), Action is a something new and different.

That doesnt always mean its good. I dont mind new in fact I support it most of the time but only if its good.

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Re: Trying not to be bitterly disappointed...(JL 7 spoilers)

Postby Dragavon » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:36 pm

avengingtitan wrote:That doesnt always mean its good. I dont mind new in fact I support it most of the time but only if its good.

I liked issues 1-4 & 7
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