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by HNutz » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:10 pm
draco x wrote:
I am with you there as I never liked that character from the get-go.
Not even the original BKV mini?
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Herald

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by Herald » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:52 pm
Benderbrau wrote:What's a "lancer type character" mean?
Rockman wrote:Every group of characters usually has a lancer. It's a character that isn't the leader, but always gives the leader crap. Like Raphael in the Ninja Turtles, FaceMan in the A-team, or Jane from Firefly.
It comes from the character Lancelot, who was always challenging King Arthur.
Well done, my apprentice (and my Lancer)!! 
Now, allow a professional to bat clean-up...
Notable highlights:
[The Lancer is] the right-hand man and the Foil for The Hero.
This is the member of the Five-Man Band who is most likely to not be a team player. He's the one who sneaks off on his own to advance the team's goals independently. He might be jealous of the leader, with an attitude of "Why can't I be the leader?" When he does finally get his chance though, to his chagrin he may well find himself asking himself, "Now what would The Hero do?"
If The Complainer Is Always Wrong and there's a chronic complainer to act as the show's Butt Monkey, it's likely this guy. He's also the one most likely on the team to go turncoat, and the last one the hero will suspect. Conversely, if the rest of the Band members turn their backs on The Hero for some reason, the Lancer may be the only one who sticks by his side.
Powers and skills common to the lancer include:
* Just as Heroes Prefer Swords, The Lancer is often The Archer or The Gunslinger, relying on firepower and distance. If everyone is a ranged fighter then expect The Lancer to explicitly be the best shot, or an Ace Pilot.
* If The Hero and The Lancer have Elemental Powers, they will be complementary. If The Hero uses flames, The Lancer will probably use ice, electricity or water.
* Since he's the hero's counterpoint, he may be the one who is willing to do dirty tricks or enter moral gray areas. If there's only one Con Man on a team full of strait-laced heroes, it's this guy.
* Has a very high likelihood to become the Ensemble Darkhorse, or if badass enough, a Draco in Leather Pants, especially when the hero is the clean-cut type.
This trope is named for the man-at-arms of The Middle Ages, the term for a professional soldier.
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by sdsichero » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:59 pm
Rockman wrote:
Every group of characters usually has a lancer. It's a character that isn't the leader, but always gives the leader crap. Like Raphael in the Ninja Turtles, FaceMan in the A-team, or Jane from Firefly.
It comes from the character Lancelot, who was always challenging King Arthur.
Oh. I thought you meant a tranny singer.

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by Nacmir » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:15 pm
sdsichero wrote:Oh. I thought you meant a tranny singer.

Tranny singer rocked!
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by Miracloman » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:15 pm
If SNL skit character counts...

I didn't care whatever Pat was male or female,just as long as it would go and fuck itself.

Strict31 wrote:Curse you!
You've escaped from the trap that has always captured coyle and bender!!!
There will be another day, Miracloman! Another day!!!!
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Miracloman

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by Miracloman » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:32 pm
draco x wrote:
3. Scrappy Doo-Technically this character should have been on the top of the list but I am being generous today as I write this. Much like Serpentor mentioned, Scrappy Doo was brought in to help a franchise and draw in new fans. While I admit that Scrappy Doo( In some unbelievable way) helped to save the Scooby Doo franchise from being cancelled, he soon wore out his welcome when WB and Hanna Barbera decided to make him into a main character at the expense of the other ones. At this point, the Scrappy Doo hate started to crest and boil over. If the writers had been smart, they would have kept him as a background character, I could have tolerated his presence much better but forcing him on the fans was a bad idea. And when I say bad idea, I can't even describe how annoying Scrappy became in the forefront. Apparently everybody else realized it as now Scrappy is only referenced in a negative light and is the subject of various parodies in the Scooby Doo franchise. If they had stuck with the original plan of making him a background character, things might have been better, but where it stands, Scrappy Doo was a bad idea like I stated.
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Strict31 wrote:Curse you!
You've escaped from the trap that has always captured coyle and bender!!!
There will be another day, Miracloman! Another day!!!!
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by Lord Ice » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:35 pm
Miracloman wrote:If SNL skit character counts...

I didn't care whatever Pat was male or female,just as long as it would go and fuck itself.
Agreed, but at least Julia Sweeney made up for it with God Said, Ha.



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by Herald » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:36 pm
draco x wrote:
3. Scrappy Doo-Technically this character should have been on the top of the list but I am being generous today as I write this. Much like Serpentor mentioned, Scrappy Doo was brought in to help a franchise and draw in new fans. While I admit that Scrappy Doo( In some unbelievable way) helped to save the Scooby Doo franchise from being cancelled, he soon wore out his welcome when WB and Hanna Barbera decided to make him into a main character at the expense of the other ones. At this point, the Scrappy Doo hate started to crest and boil over. If the writers had been smart, they would have kept him as a background character, I could have tolerated his presence much better but forcing him on the fans was a bad idea. And when I say bad idea, I can't even describe how annoying Scrappy became in the forefront. Apparently everybody else realized it as now Scrappy is only referenced in a negative light and is the subject of various parodies in the Scooby Doo franchise. If they had stuck with the original plan of making him a background character, things might have been better, but where it stands, Scrappy Doo was a bad idea like I stated.
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by Herald » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:37 pm
Miracloman wrote:If SNL skit character counts...

I didn't care whatever Pat was male or female,just as long as it would go and fuck itself.
I still can't believe they gave he/she/it a MOVIE!

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by Zechs » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:45 am
Herald wrote:I still can't believe they gave he/she/it a MOVIE!

.............. What?


sdsichero wrote:
I especially like and admire Zechs. He's everything I wish I could be!
Dragavon wrote:Zechs... is...
Zechs...is...
I can't say it. It's too horrible. Zechs...is...not...wrong...
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by SuperginraiX » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:10 am
Zechs wrote:
.............. What?
You have missed out.
And by missing out, you have saved yourself.
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Miracloman

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by Miracloman » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:31 am
Zechs wrote:
.............. What?
You probably(and fortunately) haven't seen it because most of the standard playback devices burst in flames when you try to play the movie in it.

Strict31 wrote:Curse you!
You've escaped from the trap that has always captured coyle and bender!!!
There will be another day, Miracloman! Another day!!!!
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by sdsichero » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:13 am
Miracloman wrote:
You probably(and fortunately) haven't seen it because most of the standard playback devices burst in flames when you try to play the movie in it.
Well... looks like I have to sign up for Zechs' Secret Santa this year...
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by Juan Cena » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:21 am
Herald wrote:Well done, my apprentice (and my Lancer)!! 
Now, allow a professional to bat clean-up...
Notable highlights:
[The Lancer is] the right-hand man and the Foil for The Hero.
This is the member of the Five-Man Band who is most likely to not be a team player. He's the one who sneaks off on his own to advance the team's goals independently. He might be jealous of the leader, with an attitude of "Why can't I be the leader?" When he does finally get his chance though, to his chagrin he may well find himself asking himself, "Now what would The Hero do?"
If The Complainer Is Always Wrong and there's a chronic complainer to act as the show's Butt Monkey, it's likely this guy. He's also the one most likely on the team to go turncoat, and the last one the hero will suspect. Conversely, if the rest of the Band members turn their backs on The Hero for some reason, the Lancer may be the only one who sticks by his side.
Powers and skills common to the lancer include:
* Just as Heroes Prefer Swords, The Lancer is often The Archer or The Gunslinger, relying on firepower and distance. If everyone is a ranged fighter then expect The Lancer to explicitly be the best shot, or an Ace Pilot.
* If The Hero and The Lancer have Elemental Powers, they will be complementary. If The Hero uses flames, The Lancer will probably use ice, electricity or water.
* Since he's the hero's counterpoint, he may be the one who is willing to do dirty tricks or enter moral gray areas. If there's only one Con Man on a team full of strait-laced heroes, it's this guy.
* Has a very high likelihood to become the Ensemble Darkhorse, or if badass enough, a Draco in Leather Pants, especially when the hero is the clean-cut type.
This trope is named for the man-at-arms of The Middle Ages, the term for a professional soldier.
Craig James lancered five hookers.
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by Juan Cena » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:23 am
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