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by **rdrsfn82** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:16 pm

syxxpakk wrote:
Brock Lesnar debuted the day after 'mania. I think Sin Cara did as well. I think it's kind of a WWE-thing to do.

Yeah, they've done it more than a few times.

by **syxxpakk** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:18 pm

Umaga debuted the day after Wrestlemania.

by **syxxpakk** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:20 pm

Mankind debuted the day after Wrestlemania.

by **syxxpakk** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:21 pm

X-Pac returned the day after Wrestlemania, which was basically the birth of DX 2.0.

by **jeremiahvedder** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:22 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:
Yeah, they've done it more than a few times.

The difference is, the return of A-Train wasn't what the fans wanted. We wanted a returning Brock. That's like people wanting a nice chocolate cake and someone slapping a raw fish down on the plate in front of them. WWE should've known the difference, yeah?

by **jeremiahvedder** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:23 pm

syxxpakk wrote:X-Pac returned the day after Wrestlemania, which was basically the birth of DX 2.0.

Like I said, different set of circumstances. We weren't already anticipating the return of a Mega Star after eight years of absence. They should've held off on Albert for a week or debuted him silently at that meeting as Ace's new associate.

by **syxxpakk** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:24 pm

jeremiahvedder wrote:The difference is, the return of A-Train wasn't what the fans wanted. We wanted a returning Brock. That's like people wanting a nice chocolate cake and someone slapping a raw fish down on the plate in front of them. WWE should've known the difference, yeah?

Why?

by **syxxpakk** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:25 pm

jeremiahvedder wrote:Like I said, different set of circumstances. We weren't already anticipating the return of a Mega Star after eight years of absence. They should've held off on Albert for a week or debuted him silently at that meeting as Ace's new associate.

Oh, I see. It must have been like the clown car when you all arrived, huh?

by **syxxpakk** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:26 pm

Christ, I know this isn't a UFC thread but I sincerely hope Dana tells Overeem to fuck off after this.

by **jeremiahvedder** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:28 pm

syxxpakk wrote:
Why?

If you've got two people ready to come back, and one is Brock and one is Albert, you're obviously gonna be like "great, the B team" when Albert comes out because you're nowhere near as excited for one as you are the other.

by **rdrsfn82** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:30 pm

jeremiahvedder wrote:The difference is, the return of A-Train wasn't what the fans wanted. We wanted a returning Brock. That's like people wanting a nice chocolate cake and someone slapping a raw fish down on the plate in front of them. WWE should've known the difference, yeah?

That's not really an issue though. They weren't teasing the return of Brock, it was an internet rumor (one that clearly turned out to be true, but a rumor none the less) while Albert was teased for the last few weeks, there was no mystery to his entrance, and they were just paying off something they'd actually been advertising. The fact that some fans who had read on the internet that Brock might show up were hoping for Brock last night, shouldn't have been an issue either, because they clearly weren't going to debut him against Reilly or in the middle of the show. I'd get that if Albert came out and destroyed Cena to end the show, that would be a big let down (kind of), but to have a mid show debut against a jobber be the guy that they were promoting for the last few weeks is just how WWE does things. :smt102

by **syxxpakk** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:30 pm

jeremiahvedder wrote:If you've got two people ready to come back, and one is Brock and one is Albert, you're obviously gonna be like "great, the B team" when Albert comes out because you're nowhere near as excited for one as you are the other.

In all honesty, if it had been any other crowd it would have worked better.

by **jeremiahvedder** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:32 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:
That's not really an issue though. They weren't teasing the return of Brock, it was an internet rumor (one that clearly turned out to be true, but a rumor none the less) while Albert was teased for the last few weeks, there was no mystery to his entrance, and they were just paying off something they'd actually been advertising. The fact that some fans who had read on the internet that Brock might show up were hoping for Brock last night, shouldn't have been an issue either, because they clearly weren't going to debut him against Reilly or in the middle of the show. I'd get that if Albert came out and destroyed Cena to end the show, that would be a big let down (kind of), but to have a mid show debut against a jobber be the guy that they were promoting for the last few weeks is just how WWE does things.

I'm not saying they haven't done it like this before and won't do it like this again but when you're jacked for one thing and they feed you a lesser thing, no matter where it's at on the card, there's gonna be some "okay, sure, now let's get on with the return we really want."

Brock was a bit more than a rumor, though. There was a lot of smoke and where there's a lot of smoke, there's a lot of fire.

by **syxxpakk** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:33 pm

There was a lot of smoke about Batista as well.

by **rdrsfn82** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:33 pm

syxxpakk wrote:
In all honesty, if it had been any other crowd it would have worked better.

Yeah, that crowd was filled with too many hardcore fans to do something like this. Not that that's a bad thing, just that it was not the typical WWE crowd. Had it been Tyler Black or Chris Hero, they probably would have lost their shit even bigger than they did for Brock, which wouldn't have been the case in 99% of crowds.