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[Miracloman]

Its not Richard Rider... its a new Nova (the same one that's in the Ultimate Spiderman cartoon)

Wut?

[ReturnoftheMack]

How? The Phoenix Force has been burning through worlds as we saw in Point One and the beginning of this issue. It's committing even more genocide than Jean Grey, Thanos and Hal Jordan have combined. And Cyclops instead wants to control it to restore the mutant race?

I know the writers wanted to make Cap and Cyke adversarial to get to the fight ASAP, but Cyclops's rationale was stupid. "It's a force of rebirth, just like the D'Bari system in the Dark Phoenix Saga found out when Jean made their sun go nova."

At this rate I'm expecting him to be wearing a Magneto helmet by the end.

This.

[BubbaKanoosh]

Wut?

Yeah, me too

[BubbaKanoosh]

This.

No, not this.

[IvCNuB4]

At this rate I'm expecting him to be wearing a Magneto helmet by the end.

[Grayson]

Basically it all boils down to Captain America coming to Utopia to demand that Cyclops turn over Hope to his custody. Since this is a mutant issue and the X-Men have more experience with the Phoenix, Cyclops wants the X-Men to be allowed to handle the situation. Captain America doesn't agree and tells Cyclops that he wasn't asking. Cyclops blasts Captain America. Avengers Assemble.

All the while, Emma is in the background saying that they should really let Hope decide her own fate. So, currently both sides are being stubborn and Emma is kind of right. What does Hope have to say about all of this? Furthermore, why didn't Captain America offer to let Hope stay on Utopia if Cyclops allowed some of the Avengers stay to figure out an actual plan? Did he really think that going to the X-Men's home and demanding that they turn over one of their own when that person never actually did anything to warrant being turned over in the first place, was going to work?

[Amoebas]

Basically it all boils down to Captain America coming to Utopia to demand that Cyclops turn over Hope to his custody. Since this is a mutant issue and the X-Men have more experience with the Phoenix, Cyclops wants the X-Men to be allowed to handle the situation. Captain America doesn't agree and tells Cyclops that he wasn't asking. Cyclops blasts Captain America. Avengers Assemble.

All the while, Emma is in the background saying that they should really let Hope decide her own fate. So, currently both sides are being stubborn and Emma is kind of right. What does Hope have to say about all of this? Furthermore, why didn't Captain America offer to let Hope stay on Utopia if Cyclops allowed some of the Avengers stay to figure out an actual plan? Did he really think that going to the X-Men's home and demanding that they turn over one of their own when that person never actually did anything to warrant being turned over in the first place, was going to work?

The way these characters have been written this last decade, yes, they probably did think it would work.

If this story took place 10 years ago or longer, I'm sure Cap would have conferred with Reed Richards and the FF and brought a well reasoned, respectful and non-threatening invitation to Cyclops and the X-Men and together they would have worked something out.

But then there wouldn't be any brainless fighting.

[Nacmir]

The way these characters have been written this last decade, yes, they probably did think it would work.

If this story took place 10 years ago or longer, I'm sure Cap would have conferred with Reed Richards and the FF and brought a well reasoned, respectful and non-threatening invitation to Cyclops and the X-Men and together they would have worked something out.

But then there wouldn't be any brainless fighting.

A event in which people talk? It misses so many democrafics that it isn't even funny

[alaska1125]

I'm gonna have to learn to skip the previews. It felt like I'd already read about 90% of this book.

[GHERU]

I had fun reading them both
good times