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Greg wrote:I couldn't get into the movie not because it was similar to certain other things and themes from other stories, but mostly because it was insanely predicable at every single turn.
TS Cenation wrote:To answer question on "the argument", it's is the prevailing rule on these boards that anything that is extremely popular is bad/sucks/unoriginal, pretty much with any internet site boards this is the case. Sometime over the last 10 years or so the cool or "it" thing to do is to hate or criticize anything that is excepted as "good" by the mass public. In some case it's true but in more case it is just the "hatin to be hatin" syndrome. That being said if you don't like something for whatever reason, thats perfectly within your rights to hate on in all day, and I ain't judging you on that.
Troy, I like you man but I absolutely hate this argument so this is not a personal attack at you, this is just my opinion about the "it's cool to hate it" argument. I just don't see why my opinion or anybody else's opinion has to be on some bandwagon. If I hate something and 3 out of 5 people agree with me, that doesn't mean that we hate it because it's "cool" to hate it nor does it mean that the 2 people who love it only love it because it's "cool." This defense tactic seems to have been created by people who, for whatever reason, can't seem to cope with the idea that some people don't agree with them.
To put it another way, I don't care if one person or a million people like or dislike something. That in no way shape or form has anything to do with my personal feelings toward that same thing. I suspect that the same could/should be true about pretty much everybody else here or else I think that our hobbies and the things that we discuss would be tremendously different.
rdrsfn82 wrote:Hating Avatar isn't because it's cool to hate it, it's because it's a 3 hour movie with no plot, bad acting, and effects that only look good at a theater on a 3D screen. At home, it's like watching a really long Final Fantasy or Mass Effect cut scene, but without getting to play the game.
Greg wrote:The effects were awesome. But I do feel that was what overshadowed. People were so deep into the effects they didn't mind the poor story. And I need story for me to enjoy any type of effect.
Doc Jon wrote:Yet, the argument holds merit.
There were people on this very message board HOPING for this movie to fail. They wanted to see it go down in flames. And that can be typical among fandom.
Not saying it about you per se, but there are people that love to jump aboard and hate on something.
There most certainly was a plot. That's not even arguable.
Bad acting? Maybe you're talking about Worthington, and I don't think he's particularly good, but I thought he was ok here. Weaver is always good, Ribisi was good, and so was the rest of the cast, but c'est la vie.
And I remember someone saying that the special effects of this movie would be topped by the next Hollywood movie, but I haven't seen that yet. YOu think it looks like a video game? That's cool. But I think the special effects were damn impressive in the film. I know it's CGI, but it moves in a way that's not obviously computer generated.
Doc Jon wrote:
T2 almost note for note was Terminator with better effects.
It just baffles me on a comic board that people go with the whole "I liked it better when it was called..." argument. How can you seriously watch and/or read comics if that's your attitude? Practically everything is comics and their movies has been recycled for the past 40 years. But people will defend it to the death in one instance, and then condemn it another.
I especially like and admire Zechs. He's everything I wish I could be!
Dragavon wrote:Zechs... is...
I can't say it. It's too horrible. Zechs...is...not...wrong...
rdrsfn82 wrote:The best thing to come from this movie is when he got pissed at that reporter for asking him what it was like to make an animated movie. The fact he can't accept that this was a cartoon made me laugh.
rdrsfn82 wrote:When I say it had no plot, I don't mean that nothing happened or it wasn't coherent, just that there was no plot that actually mattered or did anything interesting or was involving in any way. The plot wasn't just unoriginal, it was boring.
It was alirght, don't get people going crazy for it though. Is there a lot added on to this version?
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