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Re: You guessed it, 'Spider-Men' is an Ultimate/616 Crossove

Postby Apache Chef » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:22 pm

FundingTheKryptonite wrote:It could be a great story, no doubt about it.

I'm just flashing back to the, I think, Quesada quote about running out of ideas once they go the Ultimate/616 crossover route.



I'd argue that they are out of ideas. USM is a good read, but the rest of the line is failing at this point.

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Re: You guessed it, 'Spider-Men' is an Ultimate/616 Crossove

Postby Chris » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:27 pm

Apache Chef wrote:

I'd argue that they are out of ideas. USM is a good read, but the rest of the line is failing at this point.


Seriously?

Hickman's Ultimates is better than Millar, IMO. At the very least, at least as good.

And X-Men is better than any prior run other than Millar's maybe.. granted, that's not a tall order.
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Postby Punchy » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:28 pm

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Seriously?

Hickman's Ultimates is better than Millar, IMO. At the very least, at least as good.

And X-Men is better than any prior run other than Millar's maybe.. granted, that's not a tall order.


No

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Re: You guessed it, 'Spider-Men' is an Ultimate/616 Crossove

Postby Chris » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:29 pm

Punchy wrote:
No


I think it's reminiscent of Warren Ellis' Stormwatch/Authority days. It's not as cinematic as Millar's run, but the quality is there.

Anyone who disagrees is a cuntrag.
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Re: You guessed it, 'Spider-Men' is an Ultimate/616 Crossove

Postby Doc Jon » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:36 pm

Hmmm...

It would be cool to have a follow up to this that included more Spider-Men like 2099, maybe a multiversal Ben Reilly, Kane and so on.
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Postby spidertour02 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:51 pm

"Joe Quesada was asked if the Ultimate Universe and the Main Marvel Universe would ever cross over and he replied no. Quesada said he'd rather close down one universe than have them cross over because it meant they were officially out of ideas." -CBR Comic-Con International Day 1 Recap, July 14th, 2005

"Having Miles Morales bump shoulders with Peter Parker in the year we're celebrating Spider-Man's 50th Anniversary was just too delicious to pass up." -Marvel Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso, April 11th, 2012

Just sayin'. (Here are the two sources, by the way -- first quote, second quote.)
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Re: You guessed it, 'Spider-Men' is an Ultimate/616 Crossove

Postby Benderbrau » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:52 pm

spidertour02 wrote:"Joe Quesada was asked if the Ultimate Universe and the Main Marvel Universe would ever cross over and he replied no. Quesada said he'd rather close down one universe than have them cross over because it meant they were officially out of ideas." -CBR Comic-Con International Day 1 Recap, July 14th, 2005

"Having Miles Morales bump shoulders with Peter Parker in the year we're celebrating Spider-Man's 50th Anniversary was just too delicious to pass up." -Marvel Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso, April 11th, 2012

Just sayin'. (Here are the two sources, by the way -- first quote, second quote.)

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Postby PDH » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:07 pm

Ultimate Spider-Man has been really good for a long time. The whole death of Spider-Man storyline and the follow up really rocks. I think this will be good, too.

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Postby HNutz » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:14 pm

ElijahSnowFan wrote:I will buy this, for the most obvious reason: It will be awesome, and interesting, to see the interaction between an adult Peter Parker and a young Miles Morales, written by a guy who has clearly written enough stories featuring Peter Parker at both ages to make it really good.

Make no mistake: Like any writer/fan dynamic, there are things I wish Bendis would do differently. But there are clearly things he does well, and this concept suits those strengths perfectly.


I'm having trouble thinking of times when I REALLY liked his adult Spider-Man.

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Re: You guessed it, 'Spider-Men' is an Ultimate/616 Crossove

Postby Punchy » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:44 pm

spidertour02 wrote:"Joe Quesada was asked if the Ultimate Universe and the Main Marvel Universe would ever cross over and he replied no. Quesada said he'd rather close down one universe than have them cross over because it meant they were officially out of ideas." -CBR Comic-Con International Day 1 Recap, July 14th, 2005

"Having Miles Morales bump shoulders with Peter Parker in the year we're celebrating Spider-Man's 50th Anniversary was just too delicious to pass up." -Marvel Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso, April 11th, 2012

Just sayin'. (Here are the two sources, by the way -- first quote, second quote.)


2 different people, one from 7 years ago.

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Re: You guessed it, 'Spider-Men' is an Ultimate/616 Crossove

Postby Doc Jon » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:45 pm

Punchy wrote:
2 different people, one from 7 years ago.


Yeah...
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Re: You guessed it, 'Spider-Men' is an Ultimate/616 Crossove

Postby Punchy » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:49 pm

Doc Jon wrote:
Yeah...


So it's not a big hypocrisy or whatever.

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Postby Doc Jon » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:50 pm

Punchy wrote:
So it's not a big hypocrisy or whatever.


Nope...
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Postby Punchy » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:51 pm

Doc Jon wrote:
Nope...


Which is what SpiderTour was implying.

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Re: You guessed it, 'Spider-Men' is an Ultimate/616 Crossove

Postby Benderbrau » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:51 pm

Punchy wrote:
So it's not a big hypocrisy or whatever.

No one said it was
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