It was referenced several times in the Pre-COIE days that Rokk was 14 when the Legion started. (Superboy #172 for one). I don't recall where it said that he was older than Garth, (especially in the Pre-COIE days)
If you were wanting to tweak things where Legion continuity happened in a shorter time span than what the current team's timeframe is without a buttload of tewaks, then you might want Garth older than Rokk, so you could have him and Imra be married with kids without it being an episode of "Teen Mom."
The fact that the de-aged versions dumped all of "Classic" Legion continuity didn't help either. We've both been around long enough to know all the b!tching and moaning about that, with fans wanting the "real" team back.
And recall, it was the early 80's Legion that was the bestseller. Sales plunged in the mid-to-late 80's. (And this was before FYG). It was around that time that the team was "growing up" more.
If you want look to seriously the Legion to work, you have to go and look back at the things that happened that caused it not to work (and by work, I mean sell comics), and fix them. And letting the team get older didn't work out too well.
I was thinking more about how the Legion's timeline was synched up with Clark's. At some point, he has to grow up to become Superman. That's always been the elephant in the room. Sooner or later, Clark grows up.
It was getting a little bit awkward back in the day when the Legionaries were all aging past the high school (and possibly college) years, but Clark was still in his teens. The best solution would be to have modern-day Supes interact with the "current" Legion.
I don't care considering as I said, it's a reboot that would merge it all, not over focus on specifics like that. The date the UP came to be can be moved all over the place and has little to no impact. I just prefer there be some time to have the feel of various people of various races know each other well enough to get along. But not so ancient as to wonder why they don't get along better still. You know Mote is my fav sci-fi novel, and I'm familiar with that con. I just don't care for it. A collapse is great when you have a great time period (which is not here) and a single civilization (again, is not here given the various member worlds). Think Star Trek and Star Wars or Babylon 5 more.
Actually, Mote happens in the about the same time period as Legion, IIRC. The CoDominion/Empire of Man rose, collapsed, and was reborn a few centuries later, all in around a 1,000 or so year period. Something like that in the Legion's timeline might be prefect to explain why things don't seem as so advanced technologically as you would think they would be. Take out the space travel and futuristic buildings, and the Legion's 31st century tech doesn't seem to have advanced that much farther that 21st Century DCU tech.
I just want to have Legion in something a little more than a generic Sci-Fi background.
It wouldn't be at all if I had my way. The main DC does what it wants, I'll do the rest and it would work. I have no problem doing that work.
So do I. The best way to do that is to to leave the "future" of the 21st century DCU to those writers, and just deal with the worlds and aliens that were created for the Legion (Like the Khunds and Resource Raiders or the Sorcerer's World, etc.), and create new ones.
The Nacireman wrote:I'd rather see the Legion explore new worlds than deal with the "old" ones. Part of the book's charm was the concepts that came out of it, like flight rings or time bubbles. Legion creators should spend more time creating a future to make readers go "Wow!" like they did in the old days.
Again, this is a perfect time, another reboot, to explore those worlds as they'll be shown, for the old fans AND the new fans to see for the first time. I disagree, the charm back then was that it was a club of teen aliens inspired to be like Superman when he was a boy. It grew from there and became literally a Legion of Super-Heroes as they demonstrated heroism and courage in the same ways the present day heroes did. BUT they did it at a time where the wow factor was common day. It was a group of teens going out and doing the super-hero stuff, not super powered folks doing what others could not. It's about valor. The creators just need to realize what a rich background they have to play in, but not drown the characters in it. Any comic runs not on kitch technology, but what really works are good stories with good characterization. The background gets lost as the reader focuses on the characters and the story. But like the Iron Man flicks, a little visual bling never hurts along the way.
Like I said, the future with the LoSH is a better place to explore the DCU in a cosmic and beyond sense. Might as well do it, have it fleshed out, use it as a hook and keep the readers there for the characters and good stories.[/quote]
Yes, you have to focus on the characters. But in the end, it's a super-hero book, and you do have to put the team do super-hero stuff.
The "Wow" factor might be common to the Legion, but it still needs to be amazing enough to knock the reader's socks off. Look at Planetary. Ellis and Cassady took common SF and comic book concepts, and amped the "Wow" factor up by eleven (RIght, Elijah Snow Fan?) And oh yeah, it had great storytelling and characterization too.
Same with FF. Stan and Jack mixed the everyday lives of the FF with all some of the most amazing concepts like Galactus and the Inhumans. And they told stories that merged the two together in an intriguing way (like Johnny and Crystal's star-crossed love) that kept readers interested on both levels.
You gotta do the stuff that keeps the customers coming back for more. Sadly, Levitz and the current book isn't doing that right now.