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by **doombug** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:52 pm

chap22 wrote:i LOVE Hawkeye (in my top 5 Marvel heroes). i love Aja. and i like Fraction more often than not.

but Kate Bitchop's inclusion may by itself make me pass on this fucking book. fuck her, fuck Heinberg for creating her, and fuck Fraction for including her. unless she dies in the first issue, in which case, bravo.

what the fuck? :shock:

by **rdrsfn82** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:55 pm

chap22 wrote:i would ALMOST rather read about Arsenal/Speedy/Red Arrow.

She is nowhere near that level of character.

I'll admit that she's nowhere near as cool as Patriot, Wiccan, Iron Lad/Vision/Kang, or Stature, but she's as good as Hulkling and Speed.

by **rdrsfn82** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:56 pm

doombug wrote:what the fuck?

Have you never read a single post by Chap before?

He's been a pretty consistent Kate Bishop hater since like the 3rd issue of the original YA series.

by **chap22** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:07 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:

Have you never read a single post by Chap before?

He's been a pretty consistent Kate Bishop hater since like the 3rd issue of the original YA series.

1st, more like it

by **chap22** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:11 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:
She is nowhere near that level of character.

I'll admit that she's nowhere near as cool as Patriot, Wiccan, Iron Lad/Vision/Kang, or Stature, but she's as good as Hulkling and Speed.

You are wrong

by **sdsichero** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:12 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:

Have you never read a single post by Chap before?

He's been a pretty consistent Kate Bishop hater since like the 3rd issue of the original YA series.

It will take away from the pure masculinity sparkling of Barton. chap will not stand for that.

by **doombug** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:13 pm

No he's right.

Kate is a great character who didn't even want the name of Hawkeye. Hell when Clint came back and they talk in that issue of presents, she almost gave him everything back but Clint pushed her and showed her how to be a better hero and person.

Which is why I'm very excited for her apprenticeship. They'll drive each other nuts. :lol:

by **rdrsfn82** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:14 pm

chap22 wrote:1st, more like it

by **doombug** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:14 pm

Chap it's alright for a male character to have a female sidekick.

Especially a sidekick who hates time travel and Kang as much as you do. :lol:

by **chap22** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:23 pm

doombug wrote:Chap it's alright for a male character to have a female sidekick.

Especially a sidekick who hates time travel and Kang as much as you do.

Huh? I love Kang...and generally love time-travel. It's the whole "dystopian future" setting I more often than not don't care for.

And I have no problem with male hero/female partner/sidekick. As one similar example, I liked the Ollie/Mia dynamic. What I have a problem with is this one particular piece of shit character

by **MistaT** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:25 pm

avengingtitan wrote:Whats confusing about that?

Its not confusing. I was just scratching my head wondering who the hell they are talking about.

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:45 pm

So I haven't spoken to my mother since Friday.

I'm waiting for her call of apology.

by **rdrsfn82** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:20 pm

by **Miracloman** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:32 pm

chap22 wrote:i LOVE Hawkeye (in my top 5 Marvel heroes). i love Aja. and i like Fraction more often than not.

but Kate Bitchop's inclusion may by itself make me pass on this fucking book. fuck her, fuck Heinberg for creating her, and fuck Fraction for including her. unless she dies in the first issue, in which case, bravo.

Have it your way.

by **doombug** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:06 pm

chap22 wrote:Huh? I love Kang...and generally love time-travel. It's the whole "dystopian future" setting I more often than not don't care for.

And I have no problem with male hero/female partner/sidekick. As one similar example, I liked the Ollie/Mia dynamic. What I have a problem with is this one particular piece of shit character

I was talking about Clint as the "you" not you...unless you think you're Clint Barton, which is a completely new set of problems that I don't even want to touch.