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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby draco x » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:35 pm

Holland Oats wrote:And he's closer to what the Hulk is supposed to be than Green Hulk/Bruce right now..


Red Hulk is just Professor Hulk mixed with the Wade Eiling Shaggy Man from DC.

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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby draco x » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:37 pm

Kerny wrote:
Well being Rulk is making him younger so there is that


I really think they should have had Glen Talbot as Red Hulk instead of Ross as there was already a story way back decades ago where Ross became a Hulk prior to Red hulk.

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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby draco x » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:39 pm

Jack Burton wrote:Who the hell likes Tony Daniel???


Hack writer that decided to make Jason Todd into Azbats with guns during that Battle For The Cowl-Knightfall ripoff clusterfuck. The only good part was Jason shooting Damian.

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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby Dragavon » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:43 pm

I like Parker as a writer but even he can't redeem Rulk. The character is shit as is every character every created by Jeph Loeb.
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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby Punchy » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:46 pm

Because he's a good character, his solo book is good, and he's worked well as an Avenger.

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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby draco x » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:44 pm

The Red Hulk thing was intriguing at first but then two major problems came from this:

1. Dragging out Red Hulk's secret ID was like the Hobgoblin mystery in the 80's which overstayed its welcome and just got less and less interesting.

2. Dumbing down various characters to make Rulk look good was another big mistake such as him beating Odin-Force Thor, Hulk, easily killing the Abomination, owning the Grandmaster and punching out a Watcher. Remember this approach is what helped ruin the Sentry as a character as well.

Also, I still believe it would have been more interesting to have Glenn Talbott be Rulk than Ross because at least his rivalry with Bruce would have been more interesting-especially over their love for Betty. I prefered Ross as the devious and ruthless army guy rather than Wade Eiling's Marvel counterpart.

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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby draco x » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:46 pm

Dragavon wrote:I like Parker as a writer but even he can't redeem Rulk. The character is shit as is every character every created by Jeph Loeb.


The only Loeb characters I like so far have been Loose Cannon and Hush over at DC-Can Marvel ship him back there by any chance?

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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby GHERU » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:51 pm

Dude punched the Watcher
Dude's awesome
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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby Mr. Poolman » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:36 pm

GHERU wrote:Dude punched the Watcher
Dude's awesome

See?
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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby Chris » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:13 pm

draco x wrote:The Red Hulk thing was intriguing at first but then two major problems came from this:

1. Dragging out Red Hulk's secret ID was like the Hobgoblin mystery in the 80's which overstayed its welcome and just got less and less interesting.

2. Dumbing down various characters to make Rulk look good was another big mistake such as him beating Odin-Force Thor, Hulk, easily killing the Abomination, owning the Grandmaster and punching out a Watcher. Remember this approach is what helped ruin the Sentry as a character as well.

Also, I still believe it would have been more interesting to have Glenn Talbott be Rulk than Ross because at least his rivalry with Bruce would have been more interesting-especially over their love for Betty. I prefered Ross as the devious and ruthless army guy rather than Wade Eiling's Marvel counterpart.


All of that is Loeb stuff. It doesn't matter anymore, because by now the character is pretty much 100% different. His motivations, his personality, his power levels.. Parker made him a much better character.

And I like that it's Ross. The whole "become that which you hate the most" aspect is more interesting to me than the cliched "spurned ex/rival revenge plot".
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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby draco x » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:14 pm

GHERU wrote:Dude punched the Watcher
Dude's awesome


You do know that was a gag, right? The Watcher would torn Rulk a new one under normal circumstances.

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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby DMM » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:34 pm

I am enjoying Tony Daniel's Detective. And I love his art.
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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby GHERU » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:48 pm

draco x wrote:
You do know that was a gag, right? The Watcher would torn Rulk a new one under normal circumstances.

gag or not: it cannon and its awesome :-D :smt026
so is Squirrel Girl defeating Doom
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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:57 pm

chap22 wrote:see also: Layla Miller no longer carrying Bendis-stink


Also: Cable and Deadpool without Liefeld

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Re: Red Hulk: Why won't he go away?

Postby draco x » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:37 am

GHERU wrote:gag or not: it cannon and its awesome :-D :smt026
so is Squirrel Girl defeating Doom


You almost had me until the Squirrel Girl thing.

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