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[Timbales]

If I employed someone to do a job for me, and they resigned but planned to finish out work for me, I don't know if I would expect them to do a good job if they publicly talked about how much I sucked and how happy they were to get away from me.

[Timbales]

Who cares? You always have to put up with more crap when dealing with the best, Hollywood knows this.

The bottom line, for me at least, is for reasons having nothing to do with the creative talent of the artist they no longer have him producing work. If I were a shareholder I'd be upset about how in the long run, this is a bad business decision. I don't care if he wanted to use one of the DC executives as a footstool if it kept him cranking out great books. They took a very shortsighted approach in handling this.

Hab

I agree, to an extent. Back in the 80's, when DC realized that Watchmen had stuck gold, there should have been a renegotiation to try and work out an equitable arrangement for all parties involved. But that didn't happen and the bridge was burned long before Before Watchmen was created.

[Chris]

I'm really glad for him he got his Fairest story line canned
kinda bummed for those of us looking forward to it, but kudos for him

it is burning bridges if he ever wants to work with DC again, like if they change their policies, he might not be able to go back there
or, if he tries to negotiate a contract with another publisher and they Google him to see if he is discrete
or, if he had friends / people who respected him who worked in that part of the company who he just called backstabbing d-bags (paraphrasing)
or, if, as some have suggested, he purposefully got a story readers were looking forward to canned to prove a point

or if people who currently work at DC (not creators, but higher ups) who may one day work for another publisher, and remember this.

[Chris]

Here's the thing, I understand where your coming from when you say that DC is totally within their rights to treat the material in any way they wish, despite Moore's objections.

Why kill the golden goose though? Moore definitely has many years left to crank out great material and probably would still be working in the industry if none of this had happened.

In the long run it's debatable whether it was a good business decision or not imo.

Hab

Considering the quality of his stuff from, let's say.. Promethea-onward (and personally, I would even say Promethea dipped in quality as it went on) I don't know if there's much of a golden goose left. He's got many years to crank out weird dragon jizz scenes, I guess, if you're into that, or shitty LOEG sequels.

[habitual]

Considering the quality of his stuff from, let's say.. Promethea-onward (and personally, I would even say Promethea dipped in quality as it went on) I don't know if there's much of a golden goose left. He's got many years to crank out weird dragon jizz scenes, I guess, if you're into that, or shitty LOEG sequels.

I thought the 49er's was a good sequel, but, I don't think by any stretch that he's "done" creatively.

I loved Promethea.

Hab

[ReturnoftheMack]

I really doubt this was Roberson's endgame. You guys are giving him too much credit IMO.

Moore shouldn't get a pass to be a dick because he's good. Hell, we don't even know the true story of why he won't work at Marvel. He's a difficult person to work with and he's lost all credibility. He's like Gerber.

[Victorian Squid]

Wow, on BC this subject has inspired invectives like "fanboy slime", "heavy mouth breathers with sweaty palms", a variation: "impotent, basement dwelling, sweaty pawed fanboy", and someone saying someone has "a schizophrenic mother and potty-training issues".

[ReturnoftheMack]

Wow, on BC this subject has inspired invectives like "fanboy slime", "heavy mouth breathers with sweaty palms", a variation: "impotent, basement dwelling, sweaty pawed fanboy", and someone saying someone has "a schizophrenic mother and potty-training issues".

You are all those things for not providing a link.

[Victorian Squid]

The thread is growing and growing, I can't remember which pages have the most insults. I think the best was around page 25 or so.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/fron ... cs-24.html

[Punchy]

Wow, on BC this subject has inspired invectives like "fanboy slime", "heavy mouth breathers with sweaty palms", a variation: "impotent, basement dwelling, sweaty pawed fanboy", and someone saying someone has "a schizophrenic mother and potty-training issues".

It's good to be reminded that no matter how bad this place can sometimes seem, there's always somewhere worse.

[Victorian Squid]

It's good to be reminded that no matter how bad this place can sometimes seem, there's always somewhere worse.

I'm well liked there, though, just today even I've gotten pages of "likes".

[ReturnoftheMack]

I'm well liked there, though, just today even I've gotten pages of "likes".

Who are you there?

[Victorian Squid]

Who are you there?

BobMarket or something.

Not really, but his post was hilarious.

[GHERU]

Who cares? You always have to put up with more crap when dealing with the best, Hollywood knows this.

The bottom line, for me at least, is for reasons having nothing to do with the creative talent of the artist they no longer have him producing work. If I were a shareholder I'd be upset about how in the long run, this is a bad business decision. I don't care if he wanted to use one of the DC executives as a footstool if it kept him cranking out great books. They took a very shortsighted approach in handling this.

Hab

yes, there are primadonnas who are fantastic, but besides Charlie Sheen with his upcoming FX show, what actor famous for shitting on any studio he's worked with in the press is still working?

The bottom line, for me, is that Moore has become a ranting hypocrite who insults not only DC and Marvel executives at every turn but also the creative forces behind the product. He basically says "no one right now is doing anything worth while, and if it is good its only because I did it first" pissing on the creators who write books, but also the fans that like them.

What would Moore say about Robinson's own work? He took some public domain characters and changed them around. He changed Dorothy into something Baum wouldn't recognize. Wrote a book that was a twist on classic horror, and wrote some Superman. To paraphrase Butters' sidekick "Moore did it!"

I wish Robinson well, I never read any of his books and often forget his name so I'll probably not check out any future product, especially if its touted as "brought to you by the writer of I, Zombie" - but none of that takes away from the fact that Moore has spent years telling me that I shouldn't read Hellblazer because some one else is writing something he created.

Fuck Moore, he can keep Fish-head Rapeman, or whatever his next last comic book ever will be, I'll keep reading Fables...a book with public domain creations doing things they weren't initially set up to do.

oh, fuck, "Moore did it!"

[Royal Nonesuch]

I'm really glad for him he got his Fairest story line canned
kinda bummed for those of us looking forward to it, but kudos for him

it is burning bridges if he ever wants to work with DC again, like if they change their policies, he might not be able to go back there
or, if he tries to negotiate a contract with another publisher and they Google him to see if he is discrete
or, if he had friends / people who respected him who worked in that part of the company who he just called backstabbing d-bags (paraphrasing)
or, if, as some have suggested, he purposefully got a story readers were looking forward to canned to prove a point

If burning bridges is publicly lambasting DC on the way out, then that's what Grant Morrison must have back in 1999/2000. After all, he hasn't worked for DC since. Oh, wait...