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[Ntikrst]

Whatta surprise. Some of us have been saying that getting rid of criticism was what the move from message boards to Facebook was all about...

Fuck Detective Comics Comics, that really is the last straw for me. I can't support that degree of manipulation and distortion on any level. Six months in and I'm trade waiting everything. Nothing is good enough for monthly attention, some titles are decompressed for trades but after reading this I wash my hands of their shit.

Fuck them all, my butt am sore.

[mrorangesoda]

Fuck Detective Comics Comics, that really is the last straw for me. I can't support that degree of manipulation and distortion on any level. Six months in and I'm trade waiting everything. Nothing is good enough for monthly attention, some titles are decompressed for trades but after reading this I wash my hands of their shit.

Fuck them all, my butt am sore.

I'm sure they'll miss your non business

[draco x]

Fuck Detective Comics Comics, that really is the last straw for me. I can't support that degree of manipulation and distortion on any level. Six months in and I'm trade waiting everything. Nothing is good enough for monthly attention, some titles are decompressed for trades but after reading this I wash my hands of their shit.

Fuck them all, my butt am sore.

And DC at times wonders why Marvel will always be ahead of them. As much as I love DC, their shit-for-brains policies can really rub me the wrong way.

[Arion]

Fuck them all, my butt am sore.

You make it sound so dirty.

And I like that!

[draco x]

Did anyone read Jim Shooter's critque of the New 52 recently? He really tore into Didio on his blog:

JIM SHOOTER:

DC Comics the New 52





Last night, I read the free preview of the New 52, Red Hood and the Outlaws #1 and Catwoman #1.


The introduction in the free preview is signed by the two co-publishers, Jim Lee and Dan DiDio. I wonder who wrote it. It says:


“WELCOME TO THE NEW 52!
This September, DC Comics explodes with 52 new #1 issues!”


I wouldn’t use the word “explodes” if I were them. The last time DC had an “explosion” and launched a slew of new titles, an “implosion” soon followed. But, okay, that’s ancient history and most people who read that intro won’t know or laugh.


The intro goes on:


“The entire line of comic books is being renumbered, with new, innovative storylines featuring our most iconic characters helmed by some of the most creative minds in the industry.
“Not only will this initiative be compelling for existing readers, it will give new readers a precise entry point into our universe.”


You can nitpick the imprecise copywriting. All readers exist, characters being “helmed” conjures an image of King Arthur’s troops…. But, who cares?


By “existing readers” I guess they’re referring to everyone who reads comic books now, not just the current crop of DC readers. Us. People to who at least understand what they mean by “renumbered” and some of whom care that there will be #1’s on the covers.


By “new readers,” I suppose, they mean people who have long wanted to read DC comic books but were waiting for a precise entry point to happen along. Plus people who previously had no desire to read comic books, whose interest has been stirred by the substantial PR effort behind the “initiative.”


Because new readers have been given a “precise entry point” I assume the doors are slammed shut and locked once the #2’s come out.


OPEN MESSAGE TO DC COMICS:


EVERY ISSUE SHOULD BE AN ENTRY POINT!


Fools.


Ahem.

[Arion]

Did anyone read Jim Shooter's critque of the New 52 recently? He really tore into Didio on his blog:

JIM SHOOTER:

DC Comics the New 52





Last night, I read the free preview of the New 52, Red Hood and the Outlaws #1 and Catwoman #1.


The introduction in the free preview is signed by the two co-publishers, Jim Lee and Dan DiDio. I wonder who wrote it. It says:


“WELCOME TO THE NEW 52!
This September, DC Comics explodes with 52 new #1 issues!”


I wouldn’t use the word “explodes” if I were them. The last time DC had an “explosion” and launched a slew of new titles, an “implosion” soon followed. But, okay, that’s ancient history and most people who read that intro won’t know or laugh.


The intro goes on:


“The entire line of comic books is being renumbered, with new, innovative storylines featuring our most iconic characters helmed by some of the most creative minds in the industry.
“Not only will this initiative be compelling for existing readers, it will give new readers a precise entry point into our universe.”


You can nitpick the imprecise copywriting. All readers exist, characters being “helmed” conjures an image of King Arthur’s troops…. But, who cares?


By “existing readers” I guess they’re referring to everyone who reads comic books now, not just the current crop of DC readers. Us. People to who at least understand what they mean by “renumbered” and some of whom care that there will be #1’s on the covers.


By “new readers,” I suppose, they mean people who have long wanted to read DC comic books but were waiting for a precise entry point to happen along. Plus people who previously had no desire to read comic books, whose interest has been stirred by the substantial PR effort behind the “initiative.”


Because new readers have been given a “precise entry point” I assume the doors are slammed shut and locked once the #2’s come out.


OPEN MESSAGE TO DC COMICS:


EVERY ISSUE SHOULD BE AN ENTRY POINT!


Fools.


Ahem.

Every issue is somebody's first issue.
Or at least it should be.

[draco x]

Every issue is somebody's first issue.
Or at least it should be.

When Jim Shooter, who was one of the most villified people in comic-dom calls you out then you know you did something wrong.

[DMM]

Jim Shooter was vilified because creative people resent being bossed around, IMO. He was a hard-working, demanding boss, and people couldn't take it, IMO.

[draco x]

Jim Shooter was vilified because creative people resent being bossed around, IMO. He was a hard-working, demanding boss, and people couldn't take it, IMO.

Yeah, I am aware of that fact. Despite how strict he was the man did do a lot for comic-dom-I just found it ironic that he is calling out Didio seeing as how he is almost as hated as Shooter was.

[Ntikrst]

You make it sound so dirty.

And I like that!

I must too, because I'll probably still be picking up Aquaman, GL and Shazam.

[Ntikrst]

Yeah, I am aware of that fact. Despite how strict he was the man did do a lot for comic-dom-I just found it ironic that he is calling out Didio seeing as how he is almost as hated as Shooter was.

Shooter did some great reviews of the first few issues of WW that made me laugh.

http://www.jimshooter.com/2012/01/wonder-woman-1-4-more.html

[Juan Cena]

Did anyone read Jim Shooter's critque of the New 52 recently? He really tore into Didio on his blog:

JIM SHOOTER:

DC Comics the New 52





Last night, I read the free preview of the New 52, Red Hood and the Outlaws #1 and Catwoman #1.


The introduction in the free preview is signed by the two co-publishers, Jim Lee and Dan DiDio. I wonder who wrote it. It says:


“WELCOME TO THE NEW 52!
This September, DC Comics explodes with 52 new #1 issues!”


I wouldn’t use the word “explodes” if I were them. The last time DC had an “explosion” and launched a slew of new titles, an “implosion” soon followed. But, okay, that’s ancient history and most people who read that intro won’t know or laugh.


The intro goes on:


“The entire line of comic books is being renumbered, with new, innovative storylines featuring our most iconic characters helmed by some of the most creative minds in the industry.
“Not only will this initiative be compelling for existing readers, it will give new readers a precise entry point into our universe.”


You can nitpick the imprecise copywriting. All readers exist, characters being “helmed” conjures an image of King Arthur’s troops…. But, who cares?


By “existing readers” I guess they’re referring to everyone who reads comic books now, not just the current crop of DC readers. Us. People to who at least understand what they mean by “renumbered” and some of whom care that there will be #1’s on the covers.


By “new readers,” I suppose, they mean people who have long wanted to read DC comic books but were waiting for a precise entry point to happen along. Plus people who previously had no desire to read comic books, whose interest has been stirred by the substantial PR effort behind the “initiative.”


Because new readers have been given a “precise entry point” I assume the doors are slammed shut and locked once the #2’s come out.


OPEN MESSAGE TO DC COMICS:


EVERY ISSUE SHOULD BE AN ENTRY POINT!


Fools.


Ahem.

Too bad his last run on Legion couldn't have been as good as this critique.

[draco x]

Too bad his last run on Legion couldn't have been as good as this critique.

Shooter, I believed cited some creative differences with Didio and company for the Legion messup before he left DC.

[draco x]

Shooter did some great reviews of the first few issues of WW that made me laugh.

http://www.jimshooter.com/2012/01/wonder-woman-1-4-more.html

As harsh as his criticisms are, he did have some very good points.

[Juan Cena]

Shooter, I believed cited some creative differences with Didio and company for the Legion messup before he left DC.

That still doesn't excuse the fact that he sucked rocks on it.