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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby Benderbrau » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:48 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:If Judd Winnick said the exact same thing, with the exact same word choices, people would be calling him a moron with an agenda.

I'm perfectly willing to call Grant Morrison a moron
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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby misac » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:50 pm

chap22 wrote:this is the same guy who described the FF as being based on the following core:

"The series has always had these underlying stresses - Stan and Jack created the dynamic like this: Reed and Sue are Mom and Dad right? Johnny's the older son and Ben's the big baby. However... Sue is Johnny's sister and mother in this scheme. Sue wants to fuck Johnny and can't, so what does she do? She fucks Johnny's dark side, his perennial opposite in the Fire and Water complex-- Prince Namor-- the dark, sexy, murky counterpart to Johnny's clean and shining sky faring fire spirit."


GFY, Morrison. you and all your peyote-inspired overanalytical Freudian bullshit. :roll:


Did he really say that? :roll: :lol:
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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby Gladiator X » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:51 pm

BlueMole wrote:http://www.playboy.com/playground/entertainment/culture/the-super-psyche



Discuss.


I can dig what he's sayin' here.

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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby Gladiator X » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:52 pm

chap22 wrote:this is the same guy who described the FF as being based on the following core:

"The series has always had these underlying stresses - Stan and Jack created the dynamic like this: Reed and Sue are Mom and Dad right? Johnny's the older son and Ben's the big baby. However... Sue is Johnny's sister and mother in this scheme. Sue wants to fuck Johnny and can't, so what does she do? She fucks Johnny's dark side, his perennial opposite in the Fire and Water complex-- Prince Namor-- the dark, sexy, murky counterpart to Johnny's clean and shining sky faring fire spirit."


GFY, Morrison. you and all your peyote-inspired overanalytical Freudian bullshit. :roll:



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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby Juan Cena » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:53 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:
Talia, Sasha Bordeaux, and a ton of others as well. I mean, he has a kid with Talia, and the story where they hooked up is one of the most famous Batman stories of all time..


And quickly retconned out of existence by Denny O'Neil,
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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby Benderbrau » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:55 pm

The comment is also incredibly homophobic. So just because you hang out with two men you must be gay and want to be sexually involved with them? That's Grant Morrison's idea of what makes one homosexual? Classy. Someone at DC should show him the same door Chris Roberson used.
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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby Grayson » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:55 pm

Benderbrau wrote:I'm perfectly willing to call Grant Morrison a moron


This.

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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby b.lumpkin » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:59 pm

Projecting IMO

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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby Timbales » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:04 pm

Straight people shouldn't be talking about stuff being 'gay'
However, Liefeld is an enigma wrapped in a pouch-filled, muscular, footless conundrum.
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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby sdsichero » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:05 pm

BlueMole wrote:http://www.playboy.com/playground/entertainment/culture/the-super-psyche


Gayness is built into Batman. I’m not using gay in the pejorative sense, but Batman is very, very gay.


So... Batman is lively? Very, very cheerful?

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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby Benderbrau » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:06 pm

Timbales wrote:Straight people shouldn't be talking about stuff being 'gay'

We shouldn't know this amrite?
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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby BlueStreak » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:07 pm

Timbales wrote:Straight people shouldn't be talking about stuff being 'gay'


I agree.

However, I do think straight people can comment on the relative straightness of something.

"Batman isn't very straight" sounds far better than "Batman is very gay."
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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby rdrsfn82 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:09 pm

BlueMole wrote:
I agree.

However, I do think straight people can comment on the relative straightness of something.

"Batman isn't very straight" sounds far better than "Batman is very gay."


That doesn't sound any better.
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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby BlueStreak » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:10 pm

rdrsfn82 wrote:
That doesn't sound any better.


Sarcasm really loses its tone on the Internet, unfortunately.
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Re: "Batman is Very, Very Gay" - Grant Morrison

Postby Timbales » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:11 pm

At his core, Batman is a fucked up guy. Gay or straight stereotypes have nothing to do with it.
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