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by **e_galston** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:21 pm

Well i've been reading up a bunch on the Phoenix Force/Jean Grey.. and the last time the phoenix was around (Phoenix Endsong) Jean declared that she and the Phoenix force are truly one entity now, have transcended into the White Phoenix of the Crown.

So it would make sense for Jean to come back...

by **oogy** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:32 pm

I hope not. I've never liked her.

by **mrorangesoda** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:33 pm

Sitebreaker wrote:Well i've been reading up a bunch on the Phoenix Force/Jean Grey.. and the last time the phoenix was around (Phoenix Endsong) Jean declared that she and the Phoenix force are truly one entity now, have transcended into the White Phoenix of the Crown.

So it would make sense for Jean to come back...

Except that everyone has completely forgotten/discounted all those Phoenix minis...

by **PDH** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:55 pm

Log-Man wrote:
I don't see that there's necessarily a contradiction. For years, my favorite DC character was Barry Allen, but I recognized that his death, and his staying dead, was invaluable. Bringing him back didn't cause celebration from me.

Exactly. Sometimes a story telling decision moves us and we don't want to see it all undone. Bringing her back the last time was a huge mistake.

by **Starlord** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:00 pm

Log-Man wrote:
I don't see that there's necessarily a contradiction. For years, my favorite DC character was Barry Allen, but I recognized that his death, and his staying dead, was invaluable. Bringing him back didn't cause celebration from me.

Okay, I get it. And I'm still not thrilled with Barry being back. I really can't stand the way Johns writes him in JL at all. It's like half the time he sounds like Barry and the other half he's sounding like Wally. MAKE UP YOUR MIND JOHNS!

But Jean has been considered a character of rebirth since the 1980's. There IS a reason for her to come back. Her first "death" was needed and made a huge impact. Had she stayed dead I would be in the camp of "keep her dead" as well, but since she's already come back once... then let's keep the tradition alive!

by **Starlord** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:01 pm

oogy wrote:I hope not. I've never liked her.

That's way too bad because she always had nice things to say about you. :-(

by **GHERU** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:22 pm

wanna bet?
:wink:

by **Starlord** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:25 pm

GHERU wrote:wanna bet?

I want to say yes, but I don't want to jinx myself.

by **Chris** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:31 pm

Punchy wrote:No, she's more interesting dead, and the X-Men writers know it.

Nonsense.

by **misac** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:37 pm

I doubt it but I'd like her to.

by **mrorangesoda** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:38 pm

I think my biggest reasoning behind my guess is that with all the moving around of the "architects" this fall, we're highly likely to see someone big settle in for an extended x-run. I think you bring back Jean in Uncanny X-Men during a high quality run like that, not in an event. Events are for setting up sweeping changes for the whole line and marking a place to launch new books out of.

by **Gladiator X** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:40 pm

Starlord wrote:She's coming back at the end of this event. I can feel it in my soul. This is it! For us Jean Grey fans this is the summer of her return.

Who agrees with me?

As much as I wish this was so, alas, I fear that we will NOT see Jean Grey return this summer or anytime soon.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

by **GHERU** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:41 pm

mrorangesoda wrote:I think my biggest reasoning behind my guess is that with all the moving around of the "architects" this fall, we're highly likely to see someone big settle in for an extended x-run. I think you bring back Jean in Uncanny X-Men during a high quality run like that, not in an event. Events are for setting up sweeping changes for the whole line and marking a place to launch new books out of.

so, we know we are currently safe

by **mrorangesoda** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:52 pm

GHERU wrote:so, we know we are currently safe

Wasn't a judgement call. I haven't read Gillen's x-work. I think he's a good writer. I also think it's pretty clear that Marvel is much more behind Aaron's book in terms of publicity/etc, so I doubt he'll have much to do with it.