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[Doc Jon]

1. This is the big league's gentlemen.

As mentioned, this doesn't necessarily make it better. The "big" storylines are great, but when you save the universe every week, every threat just has to get bigger than the one that preceded it. I felt this way with Morrison's JLA run. It's not a bad thing to have the big stories by any means, but it's also not bad to have smaller stories that lead to the big events.

I would say that this is one of the things that differentiates the Avengers from YJ, and I can definitely see this as a positive depending on your tastes.

2. Better guest stars

Will have to see at the conclusion of Season 2. In Season 1, YJ definitely felt like it had the more expansive universe. Now with the 5 year jump and the introduction of a whole new cast, this is again arguable.

3. Better Characterization

This I disagree with. Avengers does do the huge storylines, but in doing so the personal smaller stories are somewhat glossed over. Young Justice spends way more time in characterization and through Season 1, you feel like you know each member of the team very well. It's the only way they could have done the story where the Light attempts to turn 3 members of the team.

This is not to say that the characterization in Avengers is off, because it isn't. I think they nail the characters as well, but YJ focuses on them. Avengers is more about the big picture and the huge storyline.

4. Hulk is actually on the team.

K. But you know that doesn't make it a better show.

5. Better Villains

Did you conveniently leave out Lex Luthor (star of comics and like every SUperman film), Ra's al Ghul (star of comics and film), Bane (star of comics and soon to be in one of the biggest films of the year), and Vandal Savage?

C'mon now. More people know Lex Luthor and Ra's and Bane now than most of the Avengers' villains you've listed.

[Doc Jon]

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[draco x]

I've wanted to see The Hulk(THE HULK not the frigging Red Hulk) on the Avengers since I was a kid. I love this show and the movie are finally letting me see it.

You do know Rulk is showing up in Season 2 of the cartoon this year, right?

[draco x]

yeah, b/c Marvel would never do that. see: Bucky, the entire MC2, the entire Young Avengers, Thor Girl, She-Hulk(s), Spider-Wom(e)n, Ms. Marvel, X-23, Phylla-Vell, etc etc

You forgot Kid Gladiator and the Mini X-Men from the Mojo-verse as well.

[habitual]

i have never in my life given 1 shit about Spawn, and never will.

You missed out on a phenomenal cartoon.

I have never given a shit about the comic, but, the cartoon was fucking spectacular.

Hab

[HNutz]

You missed out on a phenomenal cartoon.

I have never given a shit about the comic, but, the cartoon was fucking spectacular.

Hab

AND Todd McFarlane held a skull!

[draco x]

AND Todd McFarlane held a skull!

I kinda missed Todd McFarlane at Marvel artwise. I especially loved how he drew Venom and demonic Hobgoblin.

[habitual]

the storyline originality (and animation style, i guess, but i like both) is really the only advantage YJ has over Avengers, IMMO. and even then, the stories Avengers is rehashing/tweaking are such favorites (minus the SHIELD registration subplot, that's the one thing i don't like), and done so well that that advantage is almost negligible for me. everything else goes to Avengers, but i still love both.

i'd put both in my top 5 superhero cartoons:

JL/JLU
BTAS
Spectacular Spidey
Avengers
YJ

I think the designs are better on YJ, certainly more detailed, but, production value goes well beyond that. I think Avengers has better directed action sequences.

Whoever picked that shitty opening song though needs to be punched in the eye.

Hab

[draco x]

I think the designs are better on YJ, certainly more detailed, but, production value goes well beyond that. I think Avengers has better directed action sequences.

Whoever picked that shitty opening song though needs to be punched in the eye.

Hab

Agreed. At least the theme song for the 90's Avengers cartoon sounded much better.

[TROY]

I love both shows but I think personally YJ is a little better. I prefer that it is doing original stories, while there is nothing wrong with mirroring the comics work, it's nice to see good original ideas. I prefer the animation on YJ to Avengers as well, again purely a personal taste thing, not that one is better than the other.

Both shows are magnificent and definitely rank in my top 5 comic based series of all time:

1) JL/JLU
2) Young Justice
3) Batman the Brave and the Bold
4) Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes
5) X-Men Evolution

Honorable mentions would include Spectacular Spider-Man and Wolverine and the X-Men. They just didn't have the longevity of some of the others but they were top notch shows. Also love Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Batman Beyond, and The Batman, all fantastic series in my humble opinion.

[draco x]

I love both shows but I think personally YJ is a little better. I prefer that it is doing original stories, while there is nothing wrong with mirroring the comics work, it's nice to see good original ideas. I prefer the animation on YJ to Avengers as well, again purely a personal taste thing, not that one is better than the other.

Both shows are magnificent and definitely rank in my top 5 comic based series of all time:

1) JL/JLU
2) Young Justice
3) Batman the Brave and the Bold
4) Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes
5) X-Men Evolution

Honorable mentions would include Spectacular Spider-Man and Wolverine and the X-Men. They just didn't have the longevity of some of the others but they were top notch shows. Also love Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Batman Beyond, and The Batman, all fantastic series in my humble opinion.

You forgot the 90's X-Men and Spiderman cartoons, bro.

[fieldy snuts]

Young Justice is so overrated. It's the Twilight of comic book cartoons.

[Cat-Scratch]

Marvel Zombies...

[TROY]

You forgot the 90's X-Men and Spiderman cartoons, bro.

Those were good, but not as good as the ones I listed. X-Men 90's had some really bad animation and some of the stories were very disjointed, still I did enjoy it. Spider-Man in the 90's was Marvel's first really great animated series but I think Spectacular Spider-Man has been the best Spider-Man series to date.

[TROY]

Young Justice is so overrated. It's the Twilight of comic book cartoons.

You have got to be kidding, if not you could not be any more wrong.