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by **Cat-Scratch** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:07 pm

Benderbrau wrote:The DC animated movies should ahve taught you that Ed McGuiness' style does not adapt well to animation.

That's a point, but I think his worked well otherwise with Marvel characters. Sadly early 80s or late 70s John Byrne style is not possible without his head bloating to the point that the sun sets what little hair he has left on fire. *

* - Oh yeah, that'll get them going at Byrne Robotics or whatever that forums is called. :twisted:

by **Cat-Scratch** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:08 pm

Benderbrau wrote:Please name all the A:EMH episodes that are direct adapations of the comics

They're all more of a pastiche of them. Take for example the last one. Scott Lang's origin. The Civil War talks, the Skrulls showing up as they are.

Please name the stories that YJ adapted.

by **Benderbrau** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:11 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:
That's a point, but I think his worked well otherwise with Marvel characters. Sadly early 80s or late 70s John Byrne style is not possible without his head bloating to the point that the sun sets what little hair he has left on fire. *

* - Oh yeah, that'll get them going at Byrne Robotics or whatever that forums is called.

Actually they captured the Byrne style well years ago with Pryde of the X-Men IMO

by **Benderbrau** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:12 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:
They're all more of a pastiche of them. Take for example the last one. Scott Lang's origin. The Civil War talks, the Skrulls showing up as they are.

Please name the stories that YJ adapted.

pastiche =/= adaptation

by **Cat-Scratch** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:14 pm

Benderbrau wrote:Actually they captured the Byrne style well years ago with Pryde of the X-Men IMO

Byrne?

by **Benderbrau** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:19 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:
Byrne?

Did I stutter?

by **Doc Jon** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:21 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:Oh look, all went according to the Light! It was like a bad Nicieza story where everything random just linked for the hell of it for a stupid payoff where another random maggufin outdoes the whole thing. Like when the team undid the Light's master plan that took months of preparation in barely a few hours. The series was average at best.

Nothing like Loki's plot that went on all year being unraveled by the Avengers pretty quickly?

C'mon, you're being harsh on one and letting the other slide. They are both great shows, and we're lucky to have them. Nitpicking one and praising the other that has the same flaws is stupid.

by **Doc Jon** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:26 pm

Benderbrau wrote:If A:EMH had YJ's art studio it would destroy all competition. The artwork is the only thing YJ has over A:EMH

Or you could accept that some people like YJ for more than just the pretty animation. Yes, that is one factor, but hardly the only one.

by **fieldy snuts** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:28 pm

Doc Jon wrote:
Nothing like Loki's plot that went on all year being unraveled by the Avengers pretty quickly?

C'mon, you're being harsh on one and letting the other slide. They are both great shows, and we're lucky to have them. Nitpicking one and praising the other that has the same flaws is stupid.

Difference is we had a proper build-up as to how Loki's plan came unraveled other than "off panel we saw character x who devised an antidote and we then proceeded to administer it to save the day."

Young Justice is so overrated on here.

by **Doc Jon** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:33 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:
Young Justice was worse than the Hank Pym wifebeating dark spiral of depression: it was teen angst. Badly written teen angst and "grown ups just dont understand" spiele that came off like your typical soap opera scripting that just happened to star some known teen sidekicks.

It's fucking painful and only gets love here for starring known characters.

You sound like someone that only watched the first episode of the show.

If anything, the show is anything but a "grown ups don't understand" show. It has Batman in a much cooler role than he ever displays in the DCU. It shows that he cares for all these kids and he trusts them. He lets them resolve their own problems and is actually supportive. His interactions with Aqualad, his disappointment with Superman at the treatment of Superboy are all well done.

Red Tornado is also well done as we find out he's also there because it helps him become more human, and that it's a test for him.

Black Canary and here role as trainer was great.

So go off on all the teen angst you want, but you could lob such nitpicks at the Last Airbender and Legend of Korra as well and those are also fantastic shows. Again, Avengers and YJ are both great shows. You don't have to destroy one to like the other. YOu could (I know this is crazy) enjoy them both.

by **Doc Jon** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:35 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:
Difference is we had a proper build-up as to how Loki's plan came unraveled other than "off panel we saw character x who devised an antidote and we then proceeded to administer it to save the day."

Young Justice is so overrated on here.

And it's already been illustrated that what we saw wasn't the Light's ultimate plan. It directly relates to the opening of Season 2. Again, you're just nitpicking one.

by **Benderbrau** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:36 pm

Doc Jon wrote:
You sound like someone that only watched the first episode of the show.

If anything, the show is anything but a "grown ups don't understand" show. It has Batman in a much cooler role than he ever displays in the DCU. It shows that he cares for all these kids and he trusts them. He lets them resolve their own problems and is actually supportive. His interactions with Aqualad, his disappointment with Superman at the treatment of Superboy are all well done.

Red Tornado is also well done as we find out he's also there because it helps him become more human, and that it's a test for him.

Black Canary and here role as trainer was great.

So go off on all the teen angst you want, but you could lob such nitpicks at the Last Airbender and Legend of Korra as well and those are also fantastic shows. Again, Avengers and YJ are both great shows. You don't have to destroy one to like the other. YOu could (I know this is crazy) enjoy them both.

by **Doc Jon** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:39 pm

Benderbrau wrote:

Why, because he isn't the asshole that everyone's been trying to replicate since Dark Knight Returns? People seem to forget that was a 60 year old Batman and he was a bit crochety. Instead suddenly, he's just this dick to everyone in the DCU.

The character in YJ is still a badass, but they show another side to him that is actually helping the team grow. And that he cares for its members rather than treating them as soldiers (unlike that good soldier crap ripped from DKR). It's a refreshing take on a character that has become a parody of himself.

by **Benderbrau** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:45 pm

Doc Jon wrote:
Why, because he isn't the asshole that everyone's been trying to replicate since Dark Knight Returns? People seem to forget that was a 60 year old Batman and he was a bit crochety. Instead suddenly, he's just this dick to everyone in the DCU.

The character in YJ is still a badass, but they show another side to him that is actually helping the team grow. And that he cares for its members rather than treating them as soldiers (unlike that good soldier crap ripped from DKR). It's a refreshing take on a character that has become a parody of himself.

The Care Bears are the closest thing we'll get to a real Batman amrite?