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by **Doc Jon** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:52 pm

Benderbrau wrote:The Care Bears are the closest thing we'll get to a real Batman amrite?

No, the Care Bears are the closest we'll get to Johnny Panic.

You're not even trying with the trolling.

by **Benderbrau** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:55 pm

Doc Jon wrote:
No, the Care Bears are the closest we'll get to Johnny Panic.

You're not even trying with the trolling.

That's because your argument isn't worth the A material

by **Doc Jon** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:56 pm

Benderbrau wrote:That's because your argument isn't worth the A material

You have A material?

by **fieldy snuts** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:58 pm

Benderbrau wrote:

Yeah he lost me there too :lol:

by **chap22** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:08 am

Cat-Scratch wrote:
They're all more of a pastiche of them. Take for example the last one. Scott Lang's origin. The Civil War talks, the Skrulls showing up as they are.

Please name the stories that YJ adapted.

Wally as heart delivery-boy (which was awesome, btw). Gar Logan's origin. Just off the top of my head.

by **draco x** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:18 am

chap22 wrote:Wally as heart delivery-boy (which was awesome, btw). Gar Logan's origin. Just off the top of my head.

I will be watching a lot of YJ episodes over the summer thanks to these blogs stoking my interests.

by **GOSD** » Wed May 02, 2012 8:59 am

Benderbrau wrote:

No kidding.

I lost all respect for his opinions a long time ago. :smt011

by **BlueStreak** » Wed May 02, 2012 9:28 am

I like Avengers because it's a fun show. Sure, the show draws heavily from plots of recent years, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I'm sure DC would draw from that stuff as well if their events weren't Infinite Crisis, Infiniter Crisis, The Infinitest Crisis of Finality and whatnot. However, it's definitely skewed toward a younger audience and with the exception of Hank Pym (and maybe the Hulk), there's very little character growth.

I like Young Justice too. The YJ world feels a lot deeper than Avengers, partially because they often pan out to what the rest of the world is up to in an episode. The Avengers isn't a Marvel Universe show in the same way that Young Justice is, because it's specifically geared towards one team and really only hints at using the bigger world. That looks to be changing in season two, with appearances of the Fantastic Four, Heroes for Hire and the Guardians of the Galaxy in the first five episodes, but I'd still be inclined to give the edge to YJ so far.

Avengers does have the bigger villains and uses them as more of a threat than YJ. Villains such as the Joker or Black Adam shouldn't be pushed aside in favor of Sportsmaster. Psimon shouldn't be able to take out the entire Justice League, but Joker gets taken down handily after making five lines of dialogue.

All in all, both shows are good. They both have flaws but so do most children cartoons.

by **Doc Jon** » Wed May 02, 2012 9:48 am

BlueMole wrote:I like Avengers because it's a fun show. Sure, the show draws heavily from plots of recent years, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I'm sure DC would draw from that stuff as well if their events weren't Infinite Crisis, Infiniter Crisis, The Infinitest Crisis of Finality and whatnot. However, it's definitely skewed toward a younger audience and with the exception of Hank Pym (and maybe the Hulk), there's very little character growth.

I like Young Justice too. The YJ world feels a lot deeper than Avengers, partially because they often pan out to what the rest of the world is up to in an episode. The Avengers isn't a Marvel Universe show in the same way that Young Justice is, because it's specifically geared towards one team and really only hints at using the bigger world. That looks to be changing in season two, with appearances of the Fantastic Four, Heroes for Hire and the Guardians of the Galaxy in the first five episodes, but I'd still be inclined to give the edge to YJ so far.

Avengers does have the bigger villains and uses them as more of a threat than YJ. Villains such as the Joker or Black Adam shouldn't be pushed aside in favor of Sportsmaster. Psimon shouldn't be able to take out the entire Justice League, but Joker gets taken down handily after making five lines of dialogue.

All in all, both shows are good. They both have flaws but so do most children cartoons.

You mean you like them both? Is that possible?

by **Benderbrau** » Wed May 02, 2012 9:53 am

Doc Jon wrote:They are both great shows, and we're lucky to have them. Nitpicking one and praising the other that has the same flaws is stupid.

You mean like this?
the-news-stand/reasons-why-young-justice-better-than-the-avengers-t79690.html?hilit=young%20justice

by **hokeyboy** » Wed May 02, 2012 10:01 am

I tried Avengers but it felt so... juvenile. The writing and storylines were fine, but the animation, the dopey theme song, the overall "feel" of the cartoon felt like it was aimed at a generic 8 year old in the early 80s. I just couldn't get past it.

Young Justice is really solid animated show. The beauty of the animation combined with the expansive storytelling really gels together well for me.

by **Doc Jon** » Wed May 02, 2012 10:04 am

Benderbrau wrote:You mean like this?
the-news-stand/reasons-why-young-justice-better-than-the-avengers-t79690.html?hilit=young%20justice

So you read the article? At which point did I nitpick the Avengers?

I love both shows. I think that Young Justice is the better show.

ANd it got you talking and spawned another thread, eh? :wink:

by **Doc Jon** » Wed May 02, 2012 10:06 am

In case you didn't read anything past the title... :roll:

"As fans of the comic book genre, we live in blessed times. Not only are superhero films making it to the theatres with regularity, but there is also a steady stream of cartoons and animated fare to keep us sated while we await the next Hollywood blockbuster. Two such animated shows are Young Justice and the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Both shows have been stellar offerings and fans should be ecstatic to have either, much less both."

by **Benderbrau** » Wed May 02, 2012 10:18 am

Doc Jon wrote:They are both great shows

Doc Jon wrote:I think that Young Justice is the better show.

Doc Jon wrote:spawned another thread, eh?

by **draco x** » Wed May 02, 2012 11:52 am

BlueMole wrote:I like Avengers because it's a fun show. Sure, the show draws heavily from plots of recent years, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I'm sure DC would draw from that stuff as well if their events weren't Infinite Crisis, Infiniter Crisis, The Infinitest Crisis of Finality and whatnot. However, it's definitely skewed toward a younger audience and with the exception of Hank Pym (and maybe the Hulk), there's very little character growth.

I like Young Justice too. The YJ world feels a lot deeper than Avengers, partially because they often pan out to what the rest of the world is up to in an episode. The Avengers isn't a Marvel Universe show in the same way that Young Justice is, because it's specifically geared towards one team and really only hints at using the bigger world. That looks to be changing in season two, with appearances of the Fantastic Four, Heroes for Hire and the Guardians of the Galaxy in the first five episodes, but I'd still be inclined to give the edge to YJ so far.

Avengers does have the bigger villains and uses them as more of a threat than YJ. Villains such as the Joker or Black Adam shouldn't be pushed aside in favor of Sportsmaster. Psimon shouldn't be able to take out the entire Justice League, but Joker gets taken down handily after making five lines of dialogue.

All in all, both shows are good. They both have flaws but so do most children cartoons.

Fully agreed!