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by **Punchy** » Fri May 04, 2012 1:57 pm

I feel like I’ve been remiss in previous months for not giving Roberto De La Torre the massive praise he deserves for his work on this title, because he really is kicking ass here, this book just looks perfect. Grimy and dark and just like a world gone to hell. Even if you don’t know anything about this particular alternate reality, this book is worth checking out for De La Torre alone. Luckily Dave Lapham’s writing is no slouch either as he continues to slowly build up the new status quo of this world and set up the major players. It was interesting to see which dead mutants were coming back, and I’m excited to see the conflict between the AoA versions of Cyclops and Havok play out. I also liked seeing some of the X-Terminated get a little bit more fleshed-out, in this book we’re actually more familiar with the villains than the heroes, so it was good to see Horror Show and Deadeye get some focus. And at the end… holy crap it’s the Hulk. I’m liking how this book isn’t just showing us alternate versions of X-characters, but also the likes of Daredevil and now Hulk.

by **Chris** » Fri May 04, 2012 4:11 pm

This has climbed into "best of Marvel" territory, which is reserved for Winter Soldier, X-Factor, and a few others right now.

I fucking love it. It's a slow burn, but it so good. I was not expecting to like these characters so much.

And I agree about De La Torre. This blows his shitty Daredevil stuff out of the water.

by **Grayson** » Fri May 04, 2012 4:26 pm

I really enjoy this book but this issue once again makes me wonder about the decision to depower Sabretooth and Jean. If you are going to bring back characters like Cyclops, Havok, and Dead Man Wade, then the X-Terminated need to have a couple of heavy hitters of their own.

by **Chris** » Mon May 07, 2012 12:55 am

Sakie wrote:I really enjoy this book but this issue once again makes me wonder about the decision to depower Sabretooth and Jean. If you are going to bring back characters like Cyclops, Havok, and Dead Man Wade, then the X-Terminated need to have a couple of heavy hitters of their own.

That goes against the whole point of the book, in my opinion.

This isn't the X-Men. This is humanity fighting back. The roles are reversed. There's more story potential in a human Sabretooth and Jean, realizing they're going to have to learn to fight like these X-Terminated.. realizing that they've relied on their powers for far too long, and are really nothing special compared to the peak physical and fighting skills these regular humans have, against an entire world ready to obliterate them.

by **doombug** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:37 am

Not Hulk, thing. Says it right in the book. :smt102

by **Punchy** » Mon May 07, 2012 5:31 am

doombug wrote:Not Hulk, thing. Says it right in the book.

Yeah, but it's Bruce Banner, it's the Hulk.

by **avengingtitan** » Mon May 07, 2012 10:28 am

Punchy wrote:
Yeah, but it's Bruce Banner, it's the Hulk.

Nope. Its the AoA universe so he's the Thing.

by **Punchy** » Mon May 07, 2012 10:59 am

avengingtitan wrote:Nope. Its the AoA universe so he's the Thing.

Next you'll tell me that I shouldn't refer to Weapon Omega as Wolverine.

He's an alternate reality version of the Hulk, simple as.

God, you guys pick some stupid shit to complain about, this is really scraping the barrel.

by **Grayson** » Mon May 07, 2012 12:35 pm

Holland Oats wrote:That goes against the whole point of the book, in my opinion.

This isn't the X-Men. This is humanity fighting back. The roles are reversed. There's more story potential in a human Sabretooth and Jean, realizing they're going to have to learn to fight like these X-Terminated.. realizing that they've relied on their powers for far too long, and are really nothing special compared to the peak physical and fighting skills these regular humans have, against an entire world ready to obliterate them.

I get all of that, I really do. The problem is that while I really do enjoy this book, I don't like the fact that they depowered the AoA version of Sabretooth. I would have preferred that they left him alone because I absolutely hate stories that depower characters.

by **doombug** » Mon May 07, 2012 1:25 pm

Punchy wrote:
Next you'll tell me that I shouldn't refer to Weapon Omega as Wolverine.

He's an alternate reality version of the Hulk, simple as.

God, you guys pick some stupid shit to complain about, this is really scraping the barrel.

I'm not complaining, as you pointed out it's a different universe and he's a very different character. :smt102

by **Chris** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:27 pm

Sakie wrote:
I get all of that, I really do. The problem is that while I really do enjoy this book, I don't like the fact that they depowered the AoA version of Sabretooth. I would have preferred that they left him alone because I absolutely hate stories that depower characters.

I'd rather read about depowered AoA Sabretooth, than not read about him at all aside from popping up twice in 17 years.

For me, as long as it's written well, they can do whatever they want with the characters. It's an alternate universe. It's pretty much all fair game.

by **e_galston** » Tue May 08, 2012 9:00 pm

Holland Oats wrote:

I'd rather read about depowered AoA Sabretooth, than not read about him at all aside from popping up twice in 17 years.

For me, as long as it's written well, they can do whatever they want with the characters. It's an alternate universe. It's pretty much all fair game.

that's what makes alternate universes fun. no one is safe..