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by **Zechs** » Wed May 09, 2012 3:26 pm

Still the greatest:

by **Benderbrau** » Wed May 09, 2012 3:53 pm

draco x wrote:Anyways, moving on, I am sure that most read that Hulk 97 annual where Gladiator got his ass handed to him quite viciously. Did anyone get the impression that that was Marvel's way of getting payback for Hulk losing to Superman in the Marvel VS DC crossover before that? Now bear in mind, Hulk beating Gladiator is plausible as he is badass but I just felt that they made Gladiator look like an idiot the way he fought Hulk.
First off, Gladiator should have been able to speedblitz Hulk to the sun seeing as how he grabbed and took him into orbit in a matter of seconds after Hulk hit him. Also, if Gladiator's heat vision was enough to burn a hole in Hulk's chest, wouldn't he have hit his heart or vital organs and render him immobile before Hulk closes the gap between them and put Gladiator's eyes out? Plus, Hulk just figuring out that Gladiator was vulnerable to radiation out of the blue was just PIS before throwing him into that generator. Gladiator at his best should have knocked Hulk into the moon before Hulk knew what hit him but again I just feel that Marvel deliberately sets the guy up to be a parody of Superman to get knocked around by other characters.

As is always the case with Nth level characters the victor often fluctuate at the whim of the writer. Eventually characters reach a power level that's so extreme no measuring stick can honestly tell them apart.

by **draco x** » Wed May 09, 2012 4:42 pm

Benderbrau wrote:As is always the case with Nth level characters the victor often fluctuate at the whim of the writer. Eventually characters reach a power level that's so extreme no measuring stick can honestly tell them apart.

Exactly my point. Gladiator as I said would have curbstomped Hulk all across the galaxy if he's actually written correctly. I mean if Superman beat him before then Gladiator should be no different.

by **Doc Jon** » Wed May 09, 2012 8:33 pm

draco x wrote:
Exactly my point. Gladiator as I said would have curbstomped Hulk all across the galaxy if he's actually written correctly. I mean if Superman beat him before then Gladiator should be no different.

As Bender said, it depends on the writer.

I think most people would say that Hulk could take Doomsday, and Doomsday killed Supes so...

by **draco x** » Wed May 09, 2012 9:27 pm

Zechs wrote:Still the greatest:

I see you read my list. Good stuff.

by **draco x** » Wed May 09, 2012 9:29 pm

Doc Jon wrote:
As Bender said, it depends on the writer.

I think most people would say that Hulk could take Doomsday, and Doomsday killed Supes so...

Doomsday would wreck Hulk in any of his incarnations. Hulk would put up a good fight though but Doomsday is Hulk with Wolverine mixed together.

by **Doc Jon** » Wed May 09, 2012 11:02 pm

draco x wrote:
Doomsday would wreck Hulk in any of his incarnations. Hulk would put up a good fight though but Doomsday is Hulk with Wolverine mixed together.

Awaiting fanboy reaction...

by **The Shadow** » Wed May 09, 2012 11:09 pm

KingPagla wrote:Supreme as written by Alan Moore

Agreed!

by **Juan Cena** » Wed May 09, 2012 11:38 pm

chap22 wrote:Is it really a knock-off if it's cooler than the original?

by **Miracloman** » Wed May 09, 2012 11:55 pm

chap22 wrote:Is it really a knock-off if it's cooler than the original?

Folks,keep in mind that thanks to the unending parade of indignities suffered Captain Marvel/SHAZAM and or anyone from the Marvel Family have not been even remotely cool for the last four or so years.

by **Juan Cena** » Thu May 10, 2012 5:19 am

Miracloman wrote:
Folks,keep in mind that thanks to the unending parade of indignities suffered Captain Marvel/SHAZAM and or anyone from the Marvel Family have not been even remotely cool for the last thirty or so years.

Fixed

by **chap22** » Thu May 10, 2012 8:48 am

The Nacireman wrote:
Fixed

Underworld Unleashed and Jeff Smith's mini and Ordway's series were all within the last 30 years. You're wrong

by **Juan Cena** » Thu May 10, 2012 8:58 am

chap22 wrote:Underworld Unleashed and Jeff Smith's mini and Ordway's series were all within the last 30 years. You're wrong

Two of the three were massively underwhelming. The other was out of continuity, so it barely counts.

by **chap22** » Thu May 10, 2012 9:12 am

The Nacireman wrote:
Two of the three were massively underwhelming. The other was out of continuity, so it barely counts.

UU was awesome, you shut your hippie mouth.

I'd also add Kingdom Come and Justice, bur since apparently a story/character HAS to be "in-continuity" to be cool... :rolleyes: