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by **Victorian Squid** » Fri May 11, 2012 2:00 pm

GOSD wrote:
Squid and TheBass sitting in a tree...

I hope it's a big tree.

by **Starlord** » Fri May 11, 2012 2:03 pm

Very easy for me:

#3: Justice League (nearly the worst book out there)
#2. Mighty Avengers (getting closer)
#1. New Avengers (All these years later and it has never gotten better than blechhh)

by **Thor-El** » Fri May 11, 2012 2:20 pm

spidertour02 wrote:Rucka's Punisher run was a huge blow. I was incredibly excited for it, and I dropped it after nine issues. I was very disappointed in the pace and direction of the story.

Agreed absolutely. I was really hoping this book was gonna be really good and it was mediocre at best, dropped after 4 issues.

by **ElijahSnowFan** » Fri May 11, 2012 5:51 pm

I am disappointed by Justice League. It's sad how bad that book is, how that franchise seems...lost. When the Chief Creative Officer of a company is more focused on bringing back Vibe and is clearly clueless about how bad this book is...what can you say, really?

Nothing else is close. I haven't been reading a lot of crappy books lately. The only book I even give chances to when I know it sucks is Justice League, because I always hold out hope that somehow, some way, DC will turn that book around.

Hardly ever happens anymore, though.

by **chap22** » Fri May 11, 2012 5:56 pm

Justice League -- Johns and Lee will never be high art, but that book should at least be fun. it is most certainly NOT.

JL International -- i don't know WTF Jurgens thought/thinks this team/book should be, but it is most assuredly not the same thing i, nor probably any other long-time fan of that property, think it should be; this is soul-crushing, depressing dreck

Fury of Firestorm (DCnU version) -- oh good lord, no. just...NO.

by **ElijahSnowFan** » Fri May 11, 2012 6:04 pm

chap22 wrote:Justice League -- Johns and Lee will never be high art, but that book should at least be fun. it is most certainly NOT.

That's it, exactly. It's so clearly NOT fun, it's amazing. The only character who is even remotely sympathetic is Cyborg.

It's sad that Hal Jordan is such a dick, I want the character to be killed off. But he is. Hal Jordan is such a douche right now, I would actually enjoy reading his death sequence.

by **chap22** » Fri May 11, 2012 6:13 pm

ElijahSnowFan wrote:
That's it, exactly. It's so clearly NOT fun, it's amazing. The only character who is even remotely sympathetic is Cyborg.

It's sad that Hal Jordan is such a dick, I want the character to be killed off. But he is. Hal Jordan is such a douche right now, I would actually enjoy reading his death sequence.

my only disagreement is that i think as written in JLA, Flash is more sympathetic than iBorg, who is a cyper there merely to fill the role of teleporter, infojock, and walkman. and probably has hooked the whole team up with the Words with Superfriends app for free.

but you're right, everybody else is an unlikable douchetard.

by **The Shadow** » Sat May 12, 2012 12:40 am

ElijahSnowFan wrote:I am disappointed by Justice League. It's sad how bad that book is, how that franchise seems...lost. When the Chief Creative Officer of a company is more focused on bringing back Vibe and is clearly clueless about how bad this book is...what can you say, really?

I've never been a huge Grant Morrison fan, however his over-the-top writing was perfectly suited for JLA adventures. I haven't really enjoyed the JLA as much since and this current stuff just keeps getting farther and farther away.

by **nietoperz** » Sat May 12, 2012 3:44 am

chap22 wrote:Justice League -- Johns and Lee will never be high art, but that book should at least be fun. it is most certainly NOT.

JL International -- i don't know WTF Jurgens thought/thinks this team/book should be, but it is most assuredly not the same thing i, nor probably any other long-time fan of that property, think it should be; this is soul-crushing, depressing dreck

Fury of Firestorm (DCnU version) -- oh good lord, no. just...NO.

That's almost exactly my list as well, except that Firestorm looked like a clusterfuck from the get go, so I avoided it. In its place I would cite Stormwatch, which fizzled when it should have popped.

by **Eli Katz** » Sat May 12, 2012 12:22 pm

World War Hulk
Criminal - Last of the Innocent
Batman RIP

by **MoneyMelon** » Sat May 12, 2012 5:20 pm

Uncanny X-Men
The Defenders
Justice League

by **Chris** » Sat May 12, 2012 10:18 pm

1. Diggle's Daredevil/Shadowland - Brubaker left the book with a pretty kickass status quo in place, which Diggle proceded to turn to shit within three issues.

2. Uncanny X-Men - Fraction's run was the definition of mediocre.. but Gillen takes it to a new low, not seen since the Austen/Milligan era.

3. Amazing Spider-Man since Big Time - I've said enough about this.

by **Chris** » Sat May 12, 2012 10:20 pm

spidertour02 wrote:Rucka's Punisher run was a huge blow. I was incredibly excited for it, and I dropped it after nine issues. I was very disappointed in the pace and direction of the story.

Odd.. I think Rucka's Punisher is one of the best runs on the character ever. I really love it. I didn't think Punisher could work in the 616, but he pulls it off. It's almost Gotham Central-esque, with the two detectives being just as important to the book as Frank.

by **oogy** » Sun May 13, 2012 9:39 am

Holland Oats wrote:
Odd.. I think Rucka's Punisher is one of the best runs on the character ever. I really love it. I didn't think Punisher could work in the 616, but he pulls it off. It's almost Gotham Central-esque, with the two detectives being just as important to the book as Frank.

I totally agree. I'm not a big fan of the character, especially when interacting in the main Marvel U, but Rucka's run so far is fantastic.

by **oogy** » Sun May 13, 2012 9:52 am

My three biggest disappointments are:

Fury of the Firestorm: 2 creators that I really enjoy on a character that always interested me, and the book was one of the worst I've ever read (right up there with Bruce Jone's Nightwing)

Teen Titans: this book was going nowhere and aside from Tim Drake, the characters were completely unrecognizable, and unlikable.

Incredible Hulk: I've really enjoyed everything I've read by Aaron up until this book. I dropped it after issue 4, and the only reason I read it that long was because I ordered it through DCBS.