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by **Timbales** » Mon May 14, 2012 1:03 pm

if only we could agree on a color scheme for our uniforms, it's the only thing stopping our total domination

by **ThatGuyRoman** » Mon May 14, 2012 1:11 pm

Timbales wrote:if only we could agree on a color scheme for our uniforms, it's the only thing stopping our total domination

Teal for the lezzers and Fuschia for the gays. Duh.

by **Timbales** » Mon May 14, 2012 1:18 pm

ThatGuyRoman wrote:

Teal for the lezzers and Fuschia for the gays. Duh.

I don't look good in bright colors.

by **ThatGuyRoman** » Mon May 14, 2012 1:21 pm

Timbales wrote:
I don't look good in bright colors.

Then join a different team! :mad:

by **Timbales** » Mon May 14, 2012 1:29 pm

ThatGuyRoman wrote:

Then join a different team!

screw you! I was here first!

by **Benderbrau** » Mon May 14, 2012 1:30 pm

Timbales wrote:if only we could agree on a color scheme for our uniforms, it's the only thing stopping our total domination

Blue and yellow obviously

by **Benderbrau** » Mon May 14, 2012 1:31 pm

Timbales wrote:
screw you! I was here first!

Gay Civil War. Who's side are you on?

by **Herald** » Mon May 14, 2012 2:49 pm

Rockman wrote:Hercules!?

The problem with any of these characters is that we've been privvy to their innermost thoughts for 40 years, it'd be a tough sell to turn any of these the characters on this list to the other team.

That sort of thing never stopped these incompetent comic book creators before.
Ask Max Lord about suddenly being portrayed as a completely evil, anti-meta HUMAN... :roll:

by **IvCNuB4** » Mon May 14, 2012 3:11 pm

Chesscub wrote:Well considering in pre Zero Hour continuity, Lightning Lass and Shrinking Violet were shown to be a couple, it's not like they're in the closet at all.

Right. Even pre-NU52 and currently they are shown as being lovers.

by **TROY** » Mon May 14, 2012 11:53 pm

ElijahSnowFan wrote:Interesting thread, interesting comments.

As for some of the arguments in the thread, my take is this: It's 2012. Kate Kane's creation didn't blow up the internet. Neither did Shrinking Violet and Lightning Lass' outing in the mid-80s. But here's the bottom line: That shouldn't be done with characters that have clearly established sexual orientation. If it's ambiguous, then fine.

Again: You could do it with Wonder Woman and I wouldn't blink, because for the majority of her existence, she wasn't with anyone. Depending on how the story was told, it could make a lot of sense.

But at the same time, you can't do it with Gambit. Because that doesn't pass the smell test. Again, the guy has chased Rogue for TWENTY-FIVE YEARS, through numerous books, from numerous writers. You can't just ignore that just for the hell of it -- that's bad writing. If you never had Gambit doing it, then fine. But you can't flip that switch on and off -- it's not that it's unfair to readers. It's unfair to the cause, of gays/lesbians, to do that. It doesn't advance the normalization and portrayal of characters to say that, out of the blue, Gambit's gay.

Create new characters, like Kate Kane. If you find established characters who have never really been portrayed one way or the other and it makes sense, then that's fine, too.

I pretty agree with you on this one. I have to care one way or another what a fictional or real persons sexuality is but I would prefer that they create new interesting gay characters if thats what the creators want in the books, instead of changing an existing character to make a statement or publicity stunt or some thing like that.

by **Chesscub** » Tue May 15, 2012 10:42 am

Benderbrau wrote:Gay Civil War. Who's side are you on?

The side with better grammar.

by **GHERU** » Tue May 15, 2012 10:45 am

Rockman wrote:Then create new gay characters, don't go pissing on 50 years of continuity because Stan the Man couldn't make ice man a friend of dorothy in 1963.

cause new characters are welcomed with open arms to begin with, so tossing in a new gay character won't cause butt hurt?

"New Gay X-Man is just more PC Bullshit"
/Loltron'd

by **Timbales** » Tue May 15, 2012 10:50 am

I could honestly see Steve Rogers coming to terms with being gay, being raised at a time where he needed to subsume his emotions and feelings because he knew they were not excepted and being in denial this whole time.

by **draco x** » Tue May 15, 2012 10:51 am

Sakie wrote:That isn't a bad list but I definitely think they were stretching pretty far when it came to Tim Drake and Captain America. In fact, I think it's a little bit of a slap to the face for Stephanie Brown fans when the article suggests that Tim Drake has never been in a significant relationship.

Plus, you're forgetting Ariana, Lucius Fox's daughter, Cassandra and Cassie as well.

by **Rockman** » Tue May 15, 2012 10:53 am

GHERU wrote:cause new characters are welcomed with open arms to begin with, so tossing in a new gay character won't cause butt hurt?

"New Gay X-Man is just more PC Bullshit"
/Loltron'd

People aren't reading Avenger's academy in droves, but it does well enough to still be published and I assume people who read it must be okay with the fact the team is all new characters. And if I remember correctly the lightning guy is a gay too.