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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby nietoperz » Mon May 14, 2012 2:48 pm

It's the only book being canceled, and I'm willing to bet it's just a relaunch and that it will be back the following month with a new name. Hopefully a new creative team as well.
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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby holtom2000 » Mon May 14, 2012 3:08 pm

Zechs wrote:Fixed for myself and Herald. :P

Please include me in that. The only books that appear to not suck are the ones with the least changes.
The more the changes, the more it sucked. Looking at you Green Arrow, Hawkman, Firestorm, Captain Atom, Titans, and on and on...
And they RUINED all the good mojo they had with a lot of books. JLI should have continued the Max Lord storyline... Booster should still be a time cop, and Captain Atom shouldn't be whatever that sucky piece of crap they turned him into.

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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby IvCNuB4 » Mon May 14, 2012 3:14 pm

nietoperz wrote:It's the only book being canceled, and I'm willing to bet it's just a relaunch and that it will be back the following month with a new name. Hopefully a new creative team as well.


Might be. There have been Internet rumors of the League-line expanding. Dare we hope for Justice League Europe to return ? :-D
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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby Grayson » Mon May 14, 2012 3:21 pm

holtom2000 wrote:Booster should still be a time cop


I seem to remember reading somewhere that they were eventually going to get around to addressing the fact that Booster Gold is still the same Booster Gold. In fact, I believe they even said that he remembers parts of pre-Flashpoint DC but he may not know what those memories mean or what to do about it...

...at least I think I remember somebody mentioning that. I could be mistaken.

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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Mon May 14, 2012 3:22 pm

holtom2000 wrote:Please include me in that. The only books that appear to not suck are the ones with the least changes.
The more the changes, the more it sucked. Looking at you Green Arrow...


Wait, what? That can't be. Somebody should be pistol-whipped if that is true.

I submit to the internet that it is impossible, physically impossible, for Green Arrow to be as bad as it was before the New 52. I mean, it was basically unreadable then -- they had the guy living in a magic fucking forest, riffing like he was some 21st century Robin Hood! After putting an arrow through Prometheus' forehead for blowing up Star City, maiming his ward and causing the death of his pseudo-grandchild, which got him prosecuted for executing Prometheus, his identity outed, somehow banished from Star City itself, and his wife, the love of his life, leaving him so they could restart Birds of Prey!

If Green Arrow now is worse than Green Arrow then, I submit to the internet: Somebody should be pistol-whipped until they are begging for mercy. And when they do? They should get smacked one more time for good measure.
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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby MoneyMelon » Mon May 14, 2012 3:24 pm

ElijahSnowFan wrote:If Green Arrow now is worse than Green Arrow then, I submit to the internet: Somebody should be pistol-whipped until they are begging for mercy. And when they do? They should get smacked one more time for good measure.

Having read both, I can honestly say that New 52 Green Arrow is indeed worse than Pre-Flashpoint magical forest Green Arrow.
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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby Timbales » Mon May 14, 2012 3:28 pm

I'd prefer to see more limited run stories that have a beginning, middle and end.
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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby Grayson » Mon May 14, 2012 3:28 pm

ElijahSnowFan wrote:Wait, what? That can't be. Somebody should be pistol-whipped if that is true.

I submit to the internet that it is impossible, physically impossible, for Green Arrow to be as bad as it was before the New 52. I mean, it was basically unreadable then -- they had the guy living in a magic fucking forest, riffing like he was some 21st century Robin Hood! After putting an arrow through Prometheus' forehead for blowing up Star City, maiming his ward and causing the death of his pseudo-grandchild, which got him prosecuted for executing Prometheus, his identity outed, somehow banished from Star City itself, and his wife, the love of his life, leaving him so they could restart Birds of Prey!

If Green Arrow now is worse than Green Arrow then, I submit to the internet: Somebody should be pistol-whipped until they are begging for mercy. And when they do? They should get smacked one more time for good measure.


You forget that the DCnU Green Arrow is the same Green Arrow that was following the Justice League around begging them to let him join the team like a little kid chasing around his big brother and his friends. As far as anything else, I can't really comment because I haven't read his series...but the actual begging to be a part of the league is bad enough.

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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby Chesscub » Mon May 14, 2012 3:29 pm

MoneyMelon wrote:Having read both, I can honestly say that New 52 Green Arrow is indeed worse than Pre-Flashpoint magical forest Green Arrow.


I've enjoyed it more since Ann Nocenti took over with 7. I'm not sure DC knows how to deal with an Oliver Queen that is successful. He's been an underdog, man on the street for so long that he doesn't ring true as a wealthy guy now.

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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Mon May 14, 2012 3:30 pm

MoneyMelon wrote:Having read both, I can honestly say that New 52 Green Arrow is indeed worse than Pre-Flashpoint magical forest Green Arrow.


I am damn near speechless. Pre-Flashpoint Green Arrow, the Arrow franchise, is on my short list of "Lowest Point of Character Interpretation, EVER."
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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby MoneyMelon » Mon May 14, 2012 3:31 pm

Chesscub wrote:
I've enjoyed it more since Ann Nocenti took over with 7. I'm not sure DC knows how to deal with an Oliver Queen that is successful. He's been an underdog, man on the street for so long that he doesn't ring true as a wealthy guy now.

It's improved, but that isn't saying much.

And you're totally right. DC really doesn't know what to do with the character and it's a real shame. I'd rather they just cancel the book and wait until somebody comes along with a good idea. They're just doing more damage to the character like this.

I wish they'd give the book to Andy Diggle and let him continue from his Year One mini-series. That book was awesome.
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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby MoneyMelon » Mon May 14, 2012 3:33 pm

ElijahSnowFan wrote:
I am damn near speechless. Pre-Flashpoint Green Arrow, the Arrow franchise, is on my short list of "Lowest Point of Character Interpretation, EVER."

He might have to fight Hawkman for that title.
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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby Chesscub » Mon May 14, 2012 3:35 pm

MoneyMelon wrote:It's improved, but that isn't saying much.

And you're totally right. DC really doesn't know what to do with the character and it's a real shame. I'd rather they just cancel the book and wait until somebody comes along with a good idea. They're just doing more damage to the character like this.

I wish they'd give the book to Andy Diggle and let him continue from his Year One mini-series. That book was awesome.


Either that or just let Mike Grell go nuts. See if he can do something with him. I've been reading alot of that run.

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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Mon May 14, 2012 3:44 pm

MoneyMelon wrote:He might have to fight Hawkman for that title.


True -- Hawkman...wow. If I I'm DC, I'd be sorely tempted to give Carter Hall a long, long, long, long, long, long rest. I'd absolutely run with Katar Hol before I'd even dream of giving Carter Hall another book.
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Re: DC Cancelations Round 2

Postby Chesscub » Mon May 14, 2012 3:46 pm

MoneyMelon wrote:He might have to fight Hawkman for that title.


I dropped Hawkman after the first issue. Why do they think Tony Daniel can write?

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